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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back

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to another brand new episode of the

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am your hour as always

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also known as the mystery man

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because who better than me

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a magician

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tonight my friends is going to be a very

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special episode because tonight

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we will be talking about

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talking

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to the dead

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that's right my friends tonight we will

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be speaking about

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mediums

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and necromancers

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and communicating with those

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who have passed on

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into the next realm

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is it possible to communicate

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with those who have died

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don't you want to know

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so can we

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really communicate with the dead

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well it's a very comforting thought

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perhaps to think that we can

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and for centuries perhaps as long as

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there has been humans

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there have been those mediums

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those necromancers

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who have claimed that they can do

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usually though a medium or someone who

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claims to communicate with the dead

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does so purely for profit

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and in my view most mediums

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are complete and total scumballs

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who are profiting from the grief and

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sadness of those people who came to them

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looking to communicate with lost loved

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and i have to say i have seen

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so many mediums

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i have investigated many of them

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and all of them

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guess all of them my friends every

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single one

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was a fake and a fraud

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they all

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every single one of them

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resorted to magicians tricks and cold

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reading to convince their grieving

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paying customers

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that they really were

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and oh so many times i have felt that

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sad

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sickening and sinking feeling

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every time i saw one of these fakes

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employing very common magic tricks

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something i am very well educated in

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but i have to say

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i have always been open to the

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possibility

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that somewhere

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genuine people that really can

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and communicate with those who have

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or maybe just maybe i want to believe

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that that is possible

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none of us want to believe

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that this is all there is

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i think most of us

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find it comforting to believe in an

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in something after this world

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that by extension we would like to

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believe that we can communicate with

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those loved ones in our lives

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i don't give most for-profit mediums the

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every single time i invest any time or

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energy into looking into one of those

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mediums who makes these claims

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but again it's important that i say i

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have always kept an open mind i have

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so i came across tonight's guest

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a very interesting story to tell

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her name is denise

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claims to be in communication

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i was intrigued because this is not

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some for-profit medium looking to make

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money from people's grief

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this is a woman with a very personal

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story to tell about her own experience

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communicating with her dead son

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i wanted to bring her story to my

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i wanted to hear more

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so my friends

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without any further ado

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let's get to denise who is standing by

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on the mystery phone

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first i i should mention to you that

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i have sort of reputation for being more

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than a little bit skeptical about

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some things like psychics and mediums

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but it's because i have a background in

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it's because i have a background in

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stage magic

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and most psychics and meters that i have

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looked into and i've looked into

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hundreds because it's a personal

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interest of mine i have found to be less

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incredible

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your story intrigues me because you're

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not some medium that is looking to

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profit to profit from someone's grief

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and you know that many of them do that

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to people you have a more personal story

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exactly that's why i wanted to speak to

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that uh i interfacing with other people

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who've lost children and people who've

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close loved ones

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i realized it was a very common thing

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for them to go and see psychics to

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connect with their

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oh okay so i i had been recording

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um number of things and i said well i

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think it's time for me to write a book

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i have written ten books but one of his

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books is called shifting worlds my

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encounters with the afterlife and my

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inspire

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and encourage and help other people

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who've lost loved ones to realize that

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so one of the things that i realized is

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that corey and i have been working

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together for many lifetimes

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after the fact it came to me that

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it was as if he was saying

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i'm finished now

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i'm going to the other side where i

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could be of more servant

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and even though we never

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it was in his life and his death it's

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it's like he's been my guru

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and it's pretty it's pretty amazing i

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have an amazing life

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and just just to be clear from my

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listeners

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this is your son who passed on who you

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believe that you're still that you

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believe you're still in communications

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absolutely so my middle son corey

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died on suddenly and unexpectedly

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on october 26 2014.

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and let me just say i'm i'm very sorry

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for your loss before i don't before i

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don't express well thank you thank you

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i appreciate that um my experience is so

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utterly profound and beautiful that i'm

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utterly grateful and excited about every

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cory's life and his death

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because i see a bigger picture

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and it's been amazing it's been a

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powerful journey that's been four and a

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am so excited for my life so i think

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it may be appropriate to share a little

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what we are doing here what i'm doing

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here in this body and story and what why

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has a little background before we go

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yes so um i need to back up a bit

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set the container and the context

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each of us are human beings obviously

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divine limitless beings and so

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in this context it's hard for us to see

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that because we as humans can only see

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using our human logic

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and our human abilities and resources

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and that's how we operate that's the

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framework that we operate in and it's

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hard for us to see beyond that it's kind

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you know how dogs can hear different

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things and smell different things that

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we can't because their range of senses

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is greater it's the same with humans

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we're very limited to what's actually

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so in this um

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analogy if you will imagine if you uh

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if you're in a movie in this movie you

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are the lead actor in your movie

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in addition to being the lead actor as a

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the creator the producer and the one

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who's watching your movie

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are source energy in different bodies

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and different stories evolving different

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aspects of the collective

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and only you can evolve your aspect

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of source your unique collection of

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experiences from this lifetime and

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stored in your cellular dna from other

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it's your gift

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to our world and it's what your chance

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reunite and heal

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parts of ourselves through our human

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experience of feeling very separate

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are just

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maybe older have experienced more

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lifetimes i can't really um

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all this is my

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my experience and so it's not you know

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if people can take it at face value but

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imagine if you're if somebody's taking a

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picture of you and a group of people

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well you can't really see yourself you

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can't see the picture

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because you're in the frame

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and let's say if you're in the forest oh

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there's all these big trees around you

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can't really see that you're in the

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forest all you know is there's a bunch

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of trees around you and so you can't see

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the forest for the trees and it's the

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same with being human it's really really

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hard for us to see that perspective from

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the helicopter if you will of what's

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really going on

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and so

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as

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we

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are able to practice

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being present

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with love and acceptance for whatever

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arises it purchases a position to tap

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into that divine limitless nature

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and life you can see things

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from an entirely new perspective

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before i go into cory's story and my

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story uh

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i want to say that when he passed away i

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was granted two gifts

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and they were powerful gifts and they

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were the gifts of perspective

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and acceptance

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and i knew something greater than his

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death was happening

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now mind you it's very very traumatic to

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lose a child yeah that's why that's why

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i told you i i

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really my heart goes out to you because

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i have two young boys and i can't even

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imagine you know i've lost people close

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to me but they were they were of

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advanced age they lived their entire

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lives

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they didn't have any unfulfilled

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things you know they they live their

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full lives most i mean my father died

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pretty young but most of the people that

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i've lost

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you know they had their time and they

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had

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you know but a child or somebody that is

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that young how young was he when he

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passed

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he was 27 he was 27. wow

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yeah that's so young so

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he lived more in 27 years than most

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people would in 72

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and so from this human perspective

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it's hard for us

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to imagine

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uh that that could be so that oh my gosh

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because we we have in our human

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way of being a perspective that

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of way how it should be and we people

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should go on to live a long full rich

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life and would die when they're older so

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the real death

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is not actually the death of corey

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the real death

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was the death of how i thought it should

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be

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and that's what i i came to to realize

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what the real grief was so when i could

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get out of the forest out of the trees

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to see the forest and out of the picture

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to see the whole frame in the same way

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when i could see things from a different

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perspective

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i was able to very quickly

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move in my limitless divine nature

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capacity and that's where i'm speaking

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to you from today it's it's not

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something that we will experience with

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human logic or with human sight

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or senses

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that's the container i want to set

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so um anyway

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and mind you

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i

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for 50 years

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was a person of faith and that switched

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uh during the transformation process

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when corey was going through

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some

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major transformation he brought me with

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him and so i like you

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i

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when

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things first started happening and i

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realized that

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because

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i had beliefs that first of all it was

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wrong

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to communicate with the dead

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then i

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more wrongness

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creates limitations for us to experience

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something

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and the also the the thing was is people

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thought

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people think you're off your rocker

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people think you're insane because so

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that was another thing like i don't want

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to tell anybody and so when i realized

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wait a minute this is my experience it's

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very real it's happening i can let go of

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what i thought it should look like and

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what people around me think of me and

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what they think it should look like so

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that those are the limits that's all it

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is it's the limits so that i could fully

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experience the support

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from corey to do what i came here to do

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which is incidentally

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literally globally a

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scope of creating a new earth

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and by that i mean

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that we are fast as a collective

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approaching a new day

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and we

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get to choose

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what that looks like

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we also get to choose the transition of

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what that looks like so when the story

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that i'm telling you here it may just

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seem like oh an interesting story of

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some kid who was crazy man

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and he died and then you know whatever

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it's actually a global proportion the

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reason he came and so

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as such

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that i did not have the luxury of

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time to do what i came here to do i

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didn't have

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10 15 20 years to come to a place of

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acceptance

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about this

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we came here to do some important work

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and that's why

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boom

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i was granted those gifts immediately i

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always get really acceptance and

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perspective to be able to start seeing

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before i go on would you like to comment

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before no i you know i i a lot of what

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you said especially about like the

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divine spark and all of us i i

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absolutely agree with you on and

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like again i just want to say that the

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reason i was so interested in speaking

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to you is because you're not some

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fake medium that is going to prey on

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people's grief

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you know this is a personal experience

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to me so it just rings more true with me

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than some medium you know saying is

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there a j or a giant you know some of

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those tv guys especially drive me crazy

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i can't stand them

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i would like to ask you

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is what what prompted you to believe

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after his passing at first that he was

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either i don't know how to say it still

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with you or communicating with you okay

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okay um

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five days after he passed

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he appeared to me in a dream

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and he had a large

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snake

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coiled around his arm

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and he was holding the snake's head in

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his hands

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and the snake had its fangs beard

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and i said is it poisonous

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and he said no

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and the implication was that i'm not

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going to kill you

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and

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screamed no cory

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and i woke up crying and i knew exactly

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what he was telling me

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he was telling me

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i need you to face your fears mom

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because you have a big job ahead of you

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and it's going to require

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a lot of courage

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up until that point i had lived a very

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safe risk-free life because i was afraid

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of everything

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and he on the other hand was like a

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crazy man

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and i never understood until after he

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passed why would he do some of the crazy

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stuff he did until i realized that he

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wrote about it

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is because what he was doing is very

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intentionally

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facing his fears so that he could garner

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his courage to do what he came here to

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do

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and so with that

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i want to tell you i began

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facing my fears allowing and opening

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that's been the journey that's brought

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me to where i am today that's helped me

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to wake up to who we are

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i think it's appropriate to back up and

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tell you a little bit more of what led

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us to that point sure sure

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um please do corey as a teenager

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i'm just saying please do yeah

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i'd like to hear more yeah

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so corey as a teenager

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um

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started getting involved with drugs and

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alcohol and quickly got himself in

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involved in addiction

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um and

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it just put our whole family it shook us

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to the core and

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ah

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things got really crazy

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and we all just started looking at our

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lives and started this initial process

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of

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he made it through his high school years

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a few years in college and

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eventually he wound up

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making his way in his early 20s here to

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austin texas which is currently where

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i'm living

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i never lived here before but

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he found here

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community

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home

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sobriety

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and he had this amazing year of healing

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and

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just really endearing himself to the

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community here

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and after about a year

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he um had a bicycle accident where he

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he hit a head front head on with a

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passenger window on a car he was riding

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a bicycle

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and that he survived it

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but it put him in a tailspin you know

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he's experiencing

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uh memory loss and pain and and it put

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him back in a tailspin and he he got the

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idea that he had to leave austin and

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he decided to

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go take a craigslist share ride across

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the country to san diego where he lived

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homeless on the streets and beaches

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of san diego

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while he was there

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he uh after a couple months she got kind

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of tired so he went to tijuana for some

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cheap motel and food

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where he was approached by coyotes to

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transport people illegally across the

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border

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and

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unbeknownst to him

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was uh it's not a ticketable offense it

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is a federal felony fed punishable up to

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three years

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and since he didn't want to continue to

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do that he's just trying to get money to

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get home

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they set him up to get caught

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so he landed there in

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san diego correctional

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facility in downtown san diego four

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months

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came before the judge and miraculously

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so through

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through this memorandum 50-page

585
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:08,559
memorandum that i put together from

586
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:10,559
family members and friends describing

587
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:11,919
who corey was

588
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:14,400
the judge said uh this is the most

589
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:17,279
expensive memorandum i've ever seen and

590
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:19,919
i see that the the nature of the crime

591
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:22,159
does not fit the nature of the defendant

592
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:25,679
i will see to um give him time sir four

593
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:27,440
months and

594
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:29,679
four months house arrest

595
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,679
and three years probation and my house

596
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:35,760
in baton rouge now my view he was not

597
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:38,320
living with me that was not a cool thing

598
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:40,960
he had been living in austin texas and

599
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:44,720
when he got to my house he was just

600
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:47,840
oh my gosh he did not appreciate the

601
00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:49,039
fact that

602
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:52,880
how could these people not let him go

603
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:54,080
home

604
00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:56,720
where he knew he could find healing and

605
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,159
sobriety and he just got he just got

606
00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:02,640
into this really really

607
00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:05,279
toxic place in himself

608
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:08,159
and over the course of a year

609
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:09,919
um um

610
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:12,840
he was revoked

611
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:16,320
and four days three days excuse me

612
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:18,880
before he was revoked

613
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:22,320
he received quite supernaturally

614
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:25,360
the supernatural ability to forgive

615
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:27,279
which is something he'd tried and

616
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:29,440
rehabbed in different times of his life

617
00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:30,880
that he couldn't

618
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:32,720
and somehow

619
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:34,880
all of a sudden it was like this

620
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:37,360
proverbial huge weight just came off of

621
00:25:40,430 --> 00:25:39,360
his shoulders and he just like settled

622
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:40,440
in this

623
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:42,799
unshakable piece

624
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:45,679
so three days later they come and arrest

625
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:46,640
him

626
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:49,679
he actually has on his mug shot there's

627
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,029
to have face

628
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:00,070
he was like you really can't hurt me i

629
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:03,200
and he thought he won the lotto

630
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:06,400
because he realized that he was going to

631
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:07,440
use

632
00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:11,200
his prison sentence transmuted into a

633
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:14,000
time of personal transformation so when

634
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:16,559
he got to that jail cell he turned it

635
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:19,279
into an ashram a temple a college

636
00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:21,600
classroom a psychotherapist office a

637
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:23,279
place of sharing

638
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:27,919
and he wrote prolifically read

639
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:29,600
meditated

640
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:32,400
many many hours and he wrote all of

641
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:35,279
these letters to people to us and

642
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:37,039
i would receive these letters he was

643
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:39,039
chronicling his experience and his

644
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,559
transformation

645
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:42,640
and in the process he was like planting

646
00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:43,840
seeds

647
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:46,000
and he would say things like

648
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:47,760
we're all connected

649
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:50,480
and at the time i was like

650
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:52,960
i did not know that

651
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:55,919
and so he also was trying to get me to

652
00:27:01,830 --> 00:26:58,480
read books like eckhart tolle's a new

653
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:01,840
earth and which i finally did and

654
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:04,880
the fall of 2012 i came to a point where

655
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:07,200
i just while he was in prison i was

656
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:09,120
having my own experience and i just

657
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:11,200
decided to let go of everything i ever

658
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:12,400
believed

659
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:15,600
good bad right wrong tradition religion

660
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:17,919
and just to go to the i don't know

661
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:21,039
and man i felt like i got [\h__\h] up in

662
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:23,039
the outer space and i didn't know

663
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:25,840
anybody doing that except corey and he

664
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,000
was across the country

665
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:30,720
but i soon settled into a nice peaceful

666
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:33,120
place as well and

667
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:34,480
cory finished

668
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:37,440
his uh prison term a year

669
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,200
an extra year of time and he came out it

670
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,679
was really kind of tough for him but the

671
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:45,279
last six months

672
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:46,640
of his life

673
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:50,080
were this huge blossoming time

674
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:51,279
and

675
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:59,190
the spring before he died in the fall

676
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:01,200
and he said mom

677
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,559
it is our responsibility it is our due

678
00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:06,559
diligence to document

679
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:09,279
our life's inspiration and truths by

680
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:11,039
which we live

681
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:12,159
and he

682
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:14,640
created a facebook group called the

683
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:17,039
seven page project inspiring people to

684
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:18,640
create a document

685
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,360
that will share what's true for me

686
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:23,520
and just for ourselves

687
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,919
and for our family for our progeny

688
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:27,360
and so

689
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:29,200
it turns out that his

690
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:30,399
document

691
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:32,720
took the form of quotes and explains and

692
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:33,919
i just knew

693
00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:36,799
that i could surprise him by creating

694
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:38,559
this little book just like from office

695
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:40,960
depot and my computer could lay out the

696
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:41,919
quote

697
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:44,960
on one side and put x a on the other

698
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:47,120
so for his birthday in august

699
00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:51,039
of 2014 i i handed him a copy of this

700
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:53,679
book which is called the seed collection

701
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:54,880
and he's like

702
00:29:00,120 --> 00:28:58,159
oh my gosh i wrote a book and i didn't

703
00:29:01,510 --> 00:29:00,130
even know it yeah that's interesting

704
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:01,520
[Music]

705
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:04,080
and two months later he died

706
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:06,480
and we distributed over 500 copies of

707
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:08,799
that book just as the two memorial

708
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:10,320
services

709
00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:12,720
so um this was really

710
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,279
this is really amazing and

711
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:17,279
when he died which incidentally most

712
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:18,640
people were wondering you know how did

713
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:19,760
he die

714
00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:25,120
in downtown houston

715
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:26,559
um

716
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:29,360
he had a subdural hematoma

717
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:31,520
there was some sort of incident that

718
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,240
happened in front of the library there

719
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:36,720
where someone stole something from him

720
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:38,960
and we don't really know exactly what

721
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:42,320
happened but it's my suspicion that he

722
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:44,559
uh he re-injured his head and that's

723
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:46,159
what started a bleed

724
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:48,559
it caused him to just run off and act

725
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:50,720
crazy and then go down

726
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:52,159
to

727
00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:53,279
if you know anything about

728
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:55,039
synchronicities because really this book

729
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:56,880
is really a lot of includes a lot of

730
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:58,480
synchronicities but

731
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:00,559
he could have he was like a cat with

732
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:03,360
nine lives and he could have died

733
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:05,840
anywhere and he even could have died on

734
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:08,000
the street because the car almost hit

735
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:10,000
him when he was running around in his

736
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:12,080
crazed out state

737
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:14,640
and uh but he didn't he went to the

738
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:18,240
address was one one one one louisiana

739
00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:19,200
street

740
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:21,840
at the center point energy building

741
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:23,679
three levels below

742
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:25,600
in the parking garage

743
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:28,399
all of that symbolism was extremely

744
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:29,600
powerful

745
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:31,600
so going back to what i was telling you

746
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:34,559
about his life and my life

747
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:37,360
certain souls are extremely connected

748
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:39,600
and we work together for many lifetimes

749
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:42,080
and such was the case with me and corey

750
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:43,120
and so

751
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,520
the center point energy building that's

752
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:47,760
that was just a powerful symbol of what

753
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:51,200
was actually happening and this one one

754
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:54,960
one one is like new beginnings like bam

755
00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:57,360
lightning strike bam

756
00:31:01,269 --> 00:30:59,360
three levels under three is the divine

757
00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:01,279
number and he went under

758
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:02,960
and and died

759
00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:05,760
and it was on one one one one louisiana

760
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:07,519
street where i live

761
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:10,799
i lived in louisiana that's the name of

762
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:12,159
the street

763
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:15,440
but it's the symbolism was basically

764
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:19,360
yes it was exactly the exact way place

765
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:20,480
and time

766
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:21,919
that he

767
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:25,039
he exited and so what happened is

768
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:26,799
when he

769
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:29,440
died it was like boom

770
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:32,799
he activated me and i woke up

771
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:35,440
this awakening experience now it's my

772
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:36,399
turn

773
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:40,799
i'll pause for just a second

774
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:43,279
sure you know i was gonna i was gonna

775
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,360
get back to asking you about this

776
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:47,200
communication that you feel that you

777
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:49,919
have with them and is it always dreams

778
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:52,640
is it mental is it no is there full-on

779
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:55,440
apparitions involved in this does he

780
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:03,509
does he appears to me from time to time

781
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:04,320
but

782
00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:05,679
not

783
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:07,519
like a ghost

784
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:10,159
he he appears to me like when i'm in

785
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:13,200
meditation for example um

786
00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:17,120
i was in a um a meditation one time

787
00:32:20,789 --> 00:32:17,919
and

788
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:20,799
i saw him his eyes he came

789
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:23,840
zoom right into my face

790
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:25,840
and he looked at me and just saw his

791
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:26,880
eyes

792
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:30,399
and he said oh several times he said

793
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:32,480
you are source

794
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:35,600
in a human body don't forget it

795
00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:37,440
you are source

796
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:39,200
in a human body

797
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:41,039
don't forget it

798
00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:42,799
and that was really important going back

799
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:45,519
to what i told you about perspective

800
00:32:50,549 --> 00:32:47,200
we have

801
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:50,559
opportunities to see things from our our

802
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:52,880
source limited i mean our source

803
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:55,519
limitless nature but because we're so

804
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,120
habituated

805
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:59,519
only live as human

806
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:01,440
it's very

807
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:04,159
easy to just discount

808
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:06,159
who we really are and what he's trying

809
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:10,880
to do is keep having me operate from my

810
00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:14,480
divine nature which is here to tend to

811
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:16,000
and to heal

812
00:33:23,590 --> 00:33:17,120
and

813
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:23,600
our divine nature so in order to do that

814
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:25,440
i have to sit in the seat of the

815
00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:28,640
observer the source energy that i am and

816
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,559
view this whole thing as the observer

817
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:34,159
so that i could be more effective

818
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:36,559
operating from this limitless

819
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:39,600
capacity as one with all that is and

820
00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:41,440
therefore um

821
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:43,840
i can tend to my human otherwise i'm

822
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:45,679
limited to my human

823
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:47,120
ability

824
00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:49,200
and everything how i heal

825
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:52,399
how i go about seeing things

826
00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:53,600
so um

827
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:54,880
this book

828
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:56,799
shifting worlds my encounters with the

829
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:58,159
afterlife

830
00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:01,279
includes waking encounters

831
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:03,440
stream visitations

832
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:05,600
synchronicities

833
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:08,320
and stories of other people

834
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:10,800
of corey since he's passed

835
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:11,839
and

836
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:14,240
uh if you'd like um

837
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,079
i could just share

838
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,720
some examples of those yeah i'm sorry

839
00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:20,399
just just to be clear are you saying

840
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:22,159
that he's appeared to other people that

841
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:24,399
he knew when he was alive as well yeah

842
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:27,440
oh okay yeah please tell us

843
00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:29,440
very quickly yeah please tell us more

844
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:31,359
about that

845
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:33,280
okay all right so

846
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:36,159
before he appeared to me he died like on

847
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:37,760
a sunday morning

848
00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:40,800
and his first girl not first girl his

849
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:42,639
first real love

850
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:45,200
her name was danielle

851
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:45,919
she

852
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,639
heard about it uh the monday we found

853
00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:50,480
out about it on monday

854
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:53,359
and she she found out about it it went

855
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:55,040
on a wednesday

856
00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:56,639
and she

857
00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,320
was like

858
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:00,720
went to sleep maybe it was tuesday she

859
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:02,640
went to sleep took a nap

860
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:04,960
she was really really upset

861
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:07,920
and this is what three days after corey

862
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:08,800
died

863
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:11,680
danielle one of corey's old girlfriends

864
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:14,480
heard the news and was quite distraught

865
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:16,960
she fell asleep for an afternoon nap

866
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:20,000
while sleeping corey appeared to her and

867
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:23,680
the dreams being very real to her

868
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:25,520
they were both sitting in the green belt

869
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:27,200
of austin texas

870
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:30,320
and she asked him are you okay and he

871
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:33,040
looked at her with a warm smile well yes

872
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:34,800
of course he said

873
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:37,760
i'm better than i've ever been

874
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,800
and that

875
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:40,800
was really really when she shared that

876
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,040
story with me it was it was such a

877
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:45,359
beautiful surprise i knew

878
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:47,680
he was a total peace and that all was

879
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:50,880
well it was just what i needed

880
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:54,320
that's uh he appeared to my daughter

881
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:55,680
in a dream

882
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,640
but in in the very beginning the first

883
00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:00,240
few months

884
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:02,960
when he appeared a lot of times it was

885
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:04,320
it was so

886
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:05,760
so real

887
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:06,560
um

888
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:09,280
two weeks after he died

889
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,400
he

890
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:12,640
appeared in my dream but it wasn't

891
00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:15,119
appeared he called me

892
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:17,040
and

893
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:18,160
it was

894
00:36:24,829 --> 00:36:22,880
pick up the phone and i hear his voice

895
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,839
it was not um

896
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,640
like vague

897
00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:28,079
or distant

898
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:29,920
and so

899
00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:32,720
it was right close to my birthday

900
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:33,599
and

901
00:36:37,310 --> 00:36:35,440
i'm gonna pull up the story just kind of

902
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:37,320
read it as it came up

903
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:40,560
yeah just to be clear you you you

904
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:42,720
distinctly and clearly heard his voice

905
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:44,079
speaking to you but you didn't see

906
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:46,480
anything is that what you're saying okay

907
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:49,680
correct correct so one week after the

908
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:51,440
snake's dream

909
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:53,359
corey called me

910
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:54,400
my dream

911
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:57,680
it sounded so real it was it was as if

912
00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:00,079
it actually were a phone call and he

913
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:01,760
said

914
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:03,440
i got something for you for your

915
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:04,880
birthday

916
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:06,960
and i just started crying because and

917
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:08,880
then he just went away

918
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:11,040
and so my birthday was like four days

919
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:12,400
away and

920
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,040
it was the day after the second memorial

921
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,280
service that we held in honor of koi and

922
00:37:21,910 --> 00:37:19,839
it was a service that we held in austin

923
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:21,920
we had one in baton rouge and then we

924
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,160
had this other in austin well after the

925
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:26,640
memorial service one of cory's and my

926
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,640
friends his name is oscar

927
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:30,720
he came up to me and he had this really

928
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:32,880
pretty colorful teal green and blue

929
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:35,280
scarf wrapped around his neck and he

930
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:37,040
started telling me that earlier that

931
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:39,599
week he was on his way to a certain

932
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:41,040
business but

933
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:43,839
he got sidetracked by going into a store

934
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:46,240
that he'd never been in before

935
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:49,440
and he noticed some scarves and he

936
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:51,680
didn't need a scarf but he this one

937
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:55,200
scarf just really caught his eye

938
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:58,480
and it reminded him of corey he said i

939
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:01,040
got this and it was not a cheap car

940
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:03,040
he said uh

941
00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:05,440
i got this scarf because it reminded me

942
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:08,079
of corey and he as he's telling me this

943
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:11,920
he unwraps the scarf from his neck

944
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:14,880
and he put it on my neck

945
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:18,480
and i just started crying oh my gosh

946
00:38:28,710 --> 00:38:25,589
so that was my birthday gift from corey

947
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:28,720
two weeks after he passed

948
00:38:33,670 --> 00:38:30,720
wow that's that's definitely a profound

949
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:33,680
experience that you've had

950
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:34,800
yes

951
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:35,570
so um

952
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:36,800
[Music]

953
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:39,440
i can give you an example of um

954
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:42,640
some of the waking encounters sure yeah

955
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:45,520
i'd like to worry about those

956
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:47,200
so

957
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:51,280
that

958
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:52,880
um

959
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,680
he appeared to me many times

960
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:57,599
especially in the beginning it was

961
00:39:02,230 --> 00:38:59,040
really uh

962
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:02,240
in dreams and he

963
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:04,880
he was i was like i part some of the

964
00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:08,079
dreams i actually like touched his skin

965
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:10,640
and i danced with him

966
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:12,000
he kissed me

967
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:14,160
it was like literally like if i just

968
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:15,920
touched your skin i'm like oh my gosh

969
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:18,880
you're here and he tells me yes i could

970
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:21,839
be here for another month

971
00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:24,240
and so i mean a lot of stuff happened

972
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:25,839
during that month

973
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:27,359
where i can

974
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,839
i experienced him and so

975
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:31,599
realizing that

976
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:35,520
when we leave this storm this body

977
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:37,040
we

978
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:41,839
because that's our our true nature is

979
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:45,040
not form it's not in this 3d physical

980
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:46,800
reality so

981
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:47,920
um

982
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:49,440
formlessness

983
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:52,880
a soul in order to communicate has to

984
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:53,760
use

985
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:55,359
some method

986
00:40:01,750 --> 00:39:59,119
to to communicate to us whether it be

987
00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:01,760
words or sometimes it can use

988
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:02,800
signs

989
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:06,240
the state they're not like in a body

990
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:07,760
anymore

991
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:10,880
and that's why so when you're aware of

992
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:12,079
this

993
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:17,040
people open their awareness

994
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:20,240
that our spirit guides and source energy

995
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:23,200
is constantly trying to support us

996
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,079
the universe is conspiring to support us

997
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:30,560
and to help us to grow and help us in

998
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:33,040
this difficult journey of being human

999
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:33,760
so

1000
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:36,640
until unless we're aware of this

1001
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:40,319
we can't enjoy it for example if you

1002
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:43,440
bought a red toyota camry

1003
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:44,480
and

1004
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:45,760
after you bought it you're like you're

1005
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,599
looking around and you say

1006
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,359
my gosh look at there's another red

1007
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:51,599
toyota camry and there's another one it

1008
00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:53,680
wasn't that there are more red toyota

1009
00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:57,839
camry it's that you're more aware of it

1010
00:41:03,190 --> 00:40:59,599
it was always there

1011
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:03,200
and so the more aware i wanted to open

1012
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,160
people

1013
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:06,400
to what's possible and anything's

1014
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,599
possible and so i was very open and so

1015
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:11,760
lots of things happened so our family

1016
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:13,440
went and um

1017
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:15,760
the he died in the end of october in

1018
00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:18,160
january around the first of the year we

1019
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:21,680
went to antigua and rented a house and

1020
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:23,680
oh guatemala

1021
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:26,079
so this is the story of that

1022
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:26,880
um

1023
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,200
we had an unusual occurrence here in

1024
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:31,119
antigua guatemala

1025
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:33,599
today i met my first cousin fernando and

1026
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:35,599
his family for the first time

1027
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:38,079
and we had a very lovely day creating an

1028
00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:40,000
instantaneous connection and trying to

1029
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:43,119
relate a lifetime a few short hours

1030
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:45,280
as the evening wound down several of us

1031
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:48,240
were sitting at the dining room table

1032
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:50,160
fernando opened the back door and

1033
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:53,440
stepped out and as he did so a strong

1034
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:55,280
smell of roses

1035
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:57,599
permeated the room

1036
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:59,680
now i'm going to digress here and tell

1037
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:01,200
you that

1038
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:03,760
a lot of stuff was happening to me and i

1039
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:06,560
was trying to share it with my family

1040
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,000
but they

1041
00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:10,079
they just didn't get it and they would

1042
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:12,720
fail i was off my rocker so when this

1043
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:15,119
happened i've heard before

1044
00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:17,440
that roses were it's the vibration of

1045
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:19,839
love and that is a common thing for

1046
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:22,319
people to smell roses yes i've heard

1047
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:23,359
i've heard

1048
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:25,599
i've i have heard that

1049
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,400
and even had someone in my family swear

1050
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:30,960
that after my grandmother died

1051
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:33,440
her house smelled like roses for days

1052
00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:35,200
afterwards there was no roses it was in

1053
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:36,560
the middle of winter

1054
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:39,040
so that's a weird and it's not just my

1055
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:39,839
own

1056
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:41,680
family experience that i've heard that i

1057
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:44,720
have read that in 100 different reports

1058
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:47,200
of apparitions or ghosts or

1059
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:49,280
so i just wanted to well let me let me

1060
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:52,240
make a distinction um to help you to

1061
00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:54,960
understand what i've learned and that is

1062
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:57,040
and it's funny because uh

1063
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,480
corey my daughter's name is bethany and

1064
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:02,720
corey appeared to her in a dream before

1065
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:04,480
he appeared to me

1066
00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:07,920
first and he was at the memorial service

1067
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:10,160
in this dream and the one in baton rouge

1068
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,680
and

1069
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:13,520
she could tell like he could go through

1070
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:14,560
things

1071
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:15,520
and she

1072
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:17,280
said well what are you a ghost and he

1073
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:18,880
said no

1074
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:20,960
and she talked to him a little bit more

1075
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:23,119
but i realized um

1076
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:25,680
the distinction between a ghost and a

1077
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:28,400
spirit or spirit god is that

1078
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:31,280
a ghost is generally

1079
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:34,720
a soul that's got a lot of stuck energy

1080
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:36,000
and they're not

1081
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:37,359
willing to

1082
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,400
ascend they they just can't let go

1083
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:42,240
and so that's why a lot of times the

1084
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:44,720
ghosts are like scary because there it's

1085
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:48,240
a lot of stuck dark energy and they

1086
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:50,240
haven't breathed allow themselves to

1087
00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:52,079
breathe to go

1088
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,839
now this is not what i'm experiencing

1089
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:56,000
with corey he's not

1090
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,000
he he just went

1091
00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:00,400
and started working with me so anyway

1092
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:02,480
here's the roses as

1093
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:05,440
as he did so a strong smell of roses

1094
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:07,119
permeated the room

1095
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:09,760
esmerelda fernando's wife said something

1096
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:11,680
first even though i noticed it right

1097
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:12,880
away

1098
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:15,520
and she said i smell roses

1099
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:18,160
and we all said yeah we smell it too

1100
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:19,280
and my

1101
00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:21,119
my daughter bethany said what does that

1102
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,599
mean and she said well it generally

1103
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:25,920
means there's a presence of god or even

1104
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:28,480
a loved one who's passed away

1105
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:30,640
i've smelled this before it was 20 years

1106
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:31,520
ago

1107
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:34,720
he said it could be your son corey

1108
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:37,839
so we walked to the back patio area and

1109
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:40,160
the smell was like really really strong

1110
00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:43,280
there and each of us took turns smelling

1111
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:45,440
the imaginary roses

1112
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:47,760
and then esmeralda

1113
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:51,280
she told me to go out there by myself

1114
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:53,280
because she said she felt corey wanted

1115
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,960
to be alone with me

1116
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,400
so once again

1117
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:58,880
i just was spent like 15 minutes out

1118
00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:01,119
there just feeling

1119
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:03,280
the presence of corey looking up at the

1120
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:04,560
stars

1121
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:07,040
and the next day esmerelda took me aside

1122
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:09,119
and told me that she had had a dream

1123
00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:11,040
about what happened with the rose smell

1124
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:13,200
that day before and she said

1125
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:16,240
she saw corey walking through the back

1126
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,119
door he came and stood behind each of us

1127
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:21,359
around the dining room table and then he

1128
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:23,119
walked back out

1129
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:32,630
i want to share this story i have to

1130
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:35,920
because it is so insane people can

1131
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,480
channel our love most loved ones and

1132
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:42,240
this was

1133
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:44,560
i'm saying this because this is not your

1134
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:45,599
regular

1135
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:48,720
medium is channeling someone this was a

1136
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,240
spontaneous

1137
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:52,560
event and so

1138
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:55,520
okay um i had this

1139
00:46:02,470 --> 00:45:58,560
a lot of facebook friends and i

1140
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,480
i was accustomed to an affiliate to um

1141
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:04,400
allowing people to be facebook friends

1142
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,319
even if i don't know them because i i

1143
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:09,040
realize that i'm i'm spreading a message

1144
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:11,520
to inspire people so i had this friend

1145
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:15,119
that i didn't i did not know but um

1146
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,920
that

1147
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:18,240
turns out one of those people

1148
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:21,040
really liked what corey and i had to say

1149
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:22,000
and so

1150
00:46:25,349 --> 00:46:23,440
um

1151
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:25,359
in the evening time and before i went to

1152
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,400
bed

1153
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:28,640
uh this person messaged me like on

1154
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:30,800
facebook messenger and asked me about

1155
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:33,760
chloe's death and i shared with him

1156
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:34,960
what i knew

1157
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:37,119
and he said

1158
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:39,359
wrote down he said

1159
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:43,200
sit quietly at 5 00 pm and you'll heal

1160
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:45,920
hear and feel more

1161
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:47,920
i said why should i stand this is like

1162
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:49,359
10 o'clock at night

1163
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:52,079
and he said he said your feet just try

1164
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:53,119
it

1165
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:55,680
and so i'm like really really curious

1166
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:58,160
okay

1167
00:47:01,829 --> 00:47:00,319
that i had no idea what i was going to

1168
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:01,839
be doing the next day was like a

1169
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:03,280
saturday

1170
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:05,599
well we finally made plans i live in

1171
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:07,760
baton rouge at the time and we made

1172
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:10,400
plans to go to new orleans to go to this

1173
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:12,640
grand opening of this brewery

1174
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,200
and have dinner with my brother so we

1175
00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:17,359
parked the car about

1176
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:19,839
two blocks from my friend's apartment

1177
00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:24,710
i said hey look i need to

1178
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:26,640
i need to stay here by myself because it

1179
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:29,040
was like 4 55

1180
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:30,960
and i'm like

1181
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:33,839
i'll catch up with you guys

1182
00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:35,760
and so um

1183
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:37,920
we parked in front of this like small

1184
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,480
park area in the grass in a grassy media

1185
00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:41,839
and then there was

1186
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:43,760
huge oak trees

1187
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:46,000
and just beyond that was this big statue

1188
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,079
of an old woman sitting in a chair next

1189
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:49,920
to a child

1190
00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:52,160
so i noticed the homeless guy laying on

1191
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:54,079
the grass on on the other side of the

1192
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:56,640
statue i need to tell you that i have

1193
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:59,440
a beautiful beautiful relationship with

1194
00:48:01,829 --> 00:48:00,960
homeless people

1195
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:01,839
and

1196
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:04,400
i have interfaced with

1197
00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:06,720
hundreds and hundreds of homeless people

1198
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:10,559
in really powerful ways cory was um both

1199
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,920
homeless at times in his life as well as

1200
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:15,280
he uh

1201
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,000
he brought a lot to the table sharing

1202
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:20,000
about homelessness

1203
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:21,520
and so

1204
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:23,760
i saw these homeless people laying on

1205
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:26,000
the grass on the other side of statue

1206
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:28,319
and past him was another homeless guy on

1207
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:30,640
the park bench and i said well okay this

1208
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,599
message told me to sit quietly but i i

1209
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:35,200
didn't feel like i needed to go sit on

1210
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:36,800
the bench where the guy had all this

1211
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:38,720
stuff and so i just stood in front of

1212
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:41,200
the statue with my back so the homeless

1213
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:42,319
people

1214
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:44,480
and there are lots of comings and goings

1215
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:46,319
just outside of the

1216
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:48,240
area and all the while i was wondering

1217
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:50,160
okay what's going to happen well there's

1218
00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:52,880
this church that has the bells that ring

1219
00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:56,240
and ring five o'clock

1220
00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:58,319
and i was like okay what's gonna happen

1221
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:00,559
i wasn't sitting while i was standing

1222
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:03,040
and i remember thinking okay if any one

1223
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:04,720
of these homeless people are the ones i

1224
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,079
need to talk to

1225
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:08,400
they're gonna have to walk up to me

1226
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:10,880
and i looked up at the clouds and i felt

1227
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:13,839
this like rush of presence

1228
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:16,400
and i just started to cry and then this

1229
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:19,040
hispanic man walked in my direction and

1230
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:21,040
he walked right in front of me and i got

1231
00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:23,200
all excited and i said oh how are you he

1232
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:24,079
said

1233
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:26,000
uh he didn't even say anything he just

1234
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:27,680
kept walking i'm like

1235
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:29,200
okay

1236
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:30,960
and he went over to the guy laying on

1237
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,000
the grass

1238
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:34,160
and he greeted him and i thought oh well

1239
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:35,119
okay

1240
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,680
that's not it and i just stood there for

1241
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:39,680
another five minutes waiting

1242
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:43,599
and i felt another like rush of

1243
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:46,880
presence just kind of waved through me

1244
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:50,319
and i said okay well i guess that's it

1245
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:52,960
so i made my way to the car and i i

1246
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:55,760
carry around socks and quote cards and

1247
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,160
stuff to give to homeless people so i

1248
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:00,400
went to the apartment i mean to the car

1249
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:01,920
and i said well

1250
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:05,280
i i'll just go ahead and uh

1251
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:07,280
go ahead and give these homeless people

1252
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:09,119
some socks and

1253
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:10,800
whatever so i went to the guy who's

1254
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:14,000
laying on the grass and i said hi my

1255
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:15,280
name is grace

1256
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:16,400
and he said

1257
00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:17,920
i'm george

1258
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:21,440
and he just gave me the biggest smile

1259
00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:23,359
and i said well do you need a pair of

1260
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:26,240
socks or bottled water our large garbage

1261
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:27,359
bag

1262
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:29,520
and he uh i noticed he already had a

1263
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:31,440
bottle of water in the side pocket of

1264
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:32,880
his backpack

1265
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,520
and he said how about just being a

1266
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:37,280
friend

1267
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:38,880
and he just

1268
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:40,960
locked eyes with mine

1269
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:43,040
so i sat down on the grass in front of

1270
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,480
him and i was

1271
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:46,000
very aware

1272
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:47,920
remember i told you that

1273
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:50,559
at this point my awareness was very high

1274
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:52,559
so i knew that this was my encounter

1275
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:56,000
with corey i was a little wiser before

1276
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:58,319
than i was before

1277
00:51:01,670 --> 00:51:00,160
and he looks at me

1278
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:01,680
and he says

1279
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:09,190
i could have already said that you can't

1280
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:11,200
see me but

1281
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:14,480
i do not look my age at all

1282
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:16,880
so why would he say that

1283
00:51:21,750 --> 00:51:18,160
and uh

1284
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,760
i asked him how old are you and he said

1285
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:23,119
52

1286
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:25,760
and he pulled out his driver's license

1287
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,079
his id

1288
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:30,720
the funny thing was he he was born the

1289
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:33,839
same year as me 1962

1290
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:34,800
and

1291
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:37,920
his birthday get this was on april

1292
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:39,760
fool's day

1293
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:45,270
yes

1294
00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:47,920
how did you know that i said and i

1295
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:48,839
started

1296
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:50,880
crying just smiled

1297
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,200
and then i said where are you from

1298
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:55,440
and he began to share he was from

1299
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:57,680
monterey california his mother was costa

1300
00:52:03,589 --> 00:51:59,520
rican his father was

1301
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:03,599
italian in costa rican and he said that

1302
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:05,920
being from california he like many

1303
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,920
others spent a lot of time in his early

1304
00:52:12,069 --> 00:52:09,839
years smoking a lot of weed on the

1305
00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:12,079
beaches of california

1306
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,119
well

1307
00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:15,359
that's exactly what corey did

1308
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:18,319
she was over there always on the beaches

1309
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:21,040
of uh california and i said

1310
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:23,119
why did you come to new orleans i

1311
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:26,160
continued and he said well volunteering

1312
00:52:31,109 --> 00:52:29,200
i do a lot of volunteering

1313
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:31,119
he explained he worked for the red cross

1314
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,880
helping people who would start drowning

1315
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:34,319
and other stuff

1316
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:36,559
and when katrina hit the red cross told

1317
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:38,079
him they were sending him to new orleans

1318
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:39,599
for a week and he really didn't want to

1319
00:52:44,309 --> 00:52:41,440
go but they sent him

1320
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:44,319
and he shared how they flew in a

1321
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:46,400
helicopter over the whole area the first

1322
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:47,599
day

1323
00:52:50,549 --> 00:52:48,720
you know he couldn't believe the

1324
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:50,559
devastation and all the people on the

1325
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:53,359
rooftops waiting to be rescued

1326
00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:55,839
and he spent he said they put him up in

1327
00:52:59,750 --> 00:52:57,920
the sheraton for a week but he spent he

1328
00:53:02,549 --> 00:52:59,760
said i'm not going to do that anymore

1329
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:02,559
i'm going to go and be homeless and stay

1330
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:05,040
instead of staying in luxury and he's

1331
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:07,440
going to go live on this park bench

1332
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:10,720
and uh and he said i have not left this

1333
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:12,559
park bench i still work among the

1334
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:14,079
homeless

1335
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:16,160
and and mind you

1336
00:53:20,309 --> 00:53:18,000
corey was a

1337
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:20,319
huge volunteer

1338
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:22,400
and the way he said

1339
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:23,599
he was

1340
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:25,680
helping people who started drowning he's

1341
00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:27,119
done that

1342
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:29,839
cory did that in california

1343
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:32,400
save somebody from drowning

1344
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:34,880
and then uh for some strange reason this

1345
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:36,880
guy says i thought about getting my

1346
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:39,200
teeth worked on and having nice things

1347
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:41,440
but i'm not into material things it's

1348
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:43,040
just not me

1349
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:45,680
oh my gosh when corey had that bike

1350
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:48,400
accident he lost those tubes and he

1351
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:51,040
never got it fixed

1352
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:53,240
and he lived this kind of

1353
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:57,359
non-materialistic life was very simple

1354
00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,240
i was just bawling with his time

1355
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:02,319
volunteering rescuing people from

1356
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:04,880
drowning living intentionally homeless

1357
00:54:10,950 --> 00:54:07,440
which is what corey did again

1358
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:10,960
his last summer before he died he chose

1359
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:13,599
to live intentionally homeless in the

1360
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:16,480
green belt of boston texas and it was a

1361
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:19,760
joy to him it was camping it was not a

1362
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:22,240
necessity it was something he wanted to

1363
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:24,400
do to

1364
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:27,200
to just enjoy life

1365
00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:28,800
anyway um

1366
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:31,119
i just was

1367
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,079
just

1368
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:34,960
completely uh overwhelmed then he

1369
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:36,880
started rummaging through his backpack

1370
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:38,640
and he wanted to show me this article

1371
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:40,799
written about him which he he'd never

1372
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:41,599
found

1373
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:43,680
but he's like grabbed a stack of folded

1374
00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:47,440
papers and a credit card slipped out and

1375
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:48,480
i'm like

1376
00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:49,920
oh my

1377
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:51,599
i realized

1378
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:53,760
the way he was doing this like the way

1379
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:55,839
he had all his papers stuffed in there

1380
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:57,760
and this loose credit card instead of a

1381
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:01,680
wallet it's exactly what corey would do

1382
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:03,680
and then he started telling me how he'd

1383
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:06,400
been married to this girl and he was

1384
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:08,880
um she taught him how to live and she

1385
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,200
would take money from his wallet and go

1386
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:13,200
feed the homeless

1387
00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:15,599
and i was just like that's the kind of

1388
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:17,680
thing corey would do

1389
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:20,480
anyway um he said now you tell me about

1390
00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:22,480
you and i want to know about you and

1391
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:24,319
your big heart

1392
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:26,400
and so i took out this uh free

1393
00:55:30,789 --> 00:55:28,720
compliments card that corey had started

1394
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:30,799
handing out to people

1395
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:33,200
and i told him i sent him the compliment

1396
00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:34,799
that said the world is grateful you

1397
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:37,200
exist it's a little tear-off thing

1398
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:40,799
and i showed him a picture of corey

1399
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:41,680
and

1400
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:45,040
collection

1401
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:46,000
well

1402
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:47,440
he was like

1403
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:49,280
he didn't really seem to be very

1404
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:51,119
interested in reading the obituary

1405
00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:52,880
reading that he was like

1406
00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:55,839
what i really just like he looks at me

1407
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:57,760
and he pulls back the edge of his shirt

1408
00:56:03,030 --> 00:55:59,680
near his collarbone and he showed me had

1409
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:03,040
his car i said well what happened to you

1410
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:04,640
and

1411
00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:06,720
he said i broke my collarbone in a

1412
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:09,040
bicycle accident

1413
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,720
i'm like oh my gosh what are you

1414
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:14,880
why would you tell me that

1415
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:17,200
and cory had a bicycle accident too how

1416
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:20,160
did you know that he just smiled

1417
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:22,079
and he continued looking at me straight

1418
00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:23,599
in the eyes

1419
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:26,960
and then soon my phone rang and

1420
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:29,119
it was my husband ross calling to ask

1421
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:31,040
where i was and i stopped talking to

1422
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:33,440
someone but i'll catch up with you later

1423
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:34,640
and so

1424
00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:36,160
anyway

1425
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:37,760
um

1426
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:38,799
i

1427
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:50,240
a brewery sure

1428
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:53,119
so he's walking along with me

1429
00:56:57,910 --> 00:56:56,079
and he starts telling me a story now

1430
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:57,920
before i tell you this when i told you

1431
00:57:01,990 --> 00:56:59,760
that corey lived intentionally homeless

1432
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:02,000
in the greenbelt of austin he lived in a

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00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:04,559
hammock and they would just scoop up his

1434
00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:07,280
hammock leave no footprint and just go

1435
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:09,839
about his day and had his gold take a

1436
00:57:17,109 --> 00:57:12,480
waterfall massage in the in the park

1437
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:17,119
springs and it's great so he this guy

1438
00:57:23,030 --> 00:57:19,760
george starts telling me how he

1439
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:23,040
went to puerto vallejo costa rica and he

1440
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:25,599
slept in hammocks high in the banana

1441
00:57:28,789 --> 00:57:26,960
trees

1442
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:28,799
and now the panthers would scratch at

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00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:29,920
the trunk

1444
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:31,280
and i'm like

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00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:38,870
how do you know these things it was

1446
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:41,680
entirely unbelievable

1447
00:57:45,190 --> 00:57:43,760
anyway by the time um

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00:57:46,710 --> 00:57:45,200
the next day

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00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:46,720
he called me

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00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:47,920
and

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00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:50,480
i said

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00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:53,119
you know that you were channeling corey

1453
00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:55,040
he said i know that

1454
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,280
and he talked to me for a little while

1455
00:58:01,990 --> 00:57:59,839
and then he disappeared

1456
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,000
i never heard from him again his phone

1457
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:04,559
number was no longer there and that's it

1458
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:08,710
yeah that's an awful lot of

1459
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:11,040
synchronicities and an awful lot of

1460
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,160
i don't want to call them coincidences

1461
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:16,400
so you think there is synchronicities

1462
00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:17,440
are

1463
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:21,680
basically like purposeful coincidences

1464
00:58:25,990 --> 00:58:24,880
and so what happens is the more that we

1465
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:26,000
this is a

1466
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:28,799
term it's the more that it seems like

1467
00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:31,359
it's coincidental that there's no causal

1468
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:34,640
relationship but the more we align

1469
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:36,880
with our purpose

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00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:38,400
then these

1471
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:42,000
synchronicities purposeful coincidences

1472
00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:44,000
occur so it's

1473
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:47,200
it's the universe's way of helping

1474
00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:48,400
support it

1475
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:50,400
and show us yes you're on the right

1476
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:53,280
track keep going that way

1477
00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:55,920
i live a very very synchronistic life it

1478
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:01,030
sure you know i can see that we're

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00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:04,000
coming up on on uh almost an hour so i

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00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:05,520
think it would be a good idea if we take

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00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,079
a break here for a commercial break and

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00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:10,319
you hold on and we'll be right back

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00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:11,610
folks

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00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:25,119
[Music]

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00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,960
welcome back my friends we're here on

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00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:28,640
the midnight hour show

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00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:31,359
only on the fringe fm

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00:59:36,069 --> 00:59:33,760
and we're speaking with my guest tonight

1489
00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:36,079
denise russell

1490
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,880
who's talking to us about her amazing

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00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:40,559
experiences

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00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:41,599
with

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00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:45,200
her son corey who has passed on

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00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:47,200
she's the author of many books and

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00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:50,079
tonight we'll be discussing

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00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:51,760
her relationship

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00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:53,440
with her son

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00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:55,680
which continues even though he has

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01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:58,079
passed on

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01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:01,839
denise i have a database of

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01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:03,599
listeners and

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01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:06,480
their primary interests and what i did

1503
01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:08,319
was when i when i heard that we would be

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01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:10,079
talking is i reached out to some of them

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01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:11,760
and i do have some questions from some

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01:00:16,470 --> 01:00:13,440
of our listeners if you'd be willing to

1507
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:16,480
take some of those questions

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01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:18,960
okay great i would love to

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01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:20,799
okay i have uh

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01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:23,520
i have a

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01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,280
one second here let me just get to this

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01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:27,119
list i have a

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01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:28,799
colleen

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01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:29,760
in

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01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:31,440
new jersey

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01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:34,640
who wonders about your experiences could

1517
01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,200
this be wishful thinking

1518
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:39,280
because of your grief and i hope you

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01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:47,270
well

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01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:50,000
it would certainly be pretty remarkable

1521
01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:51,040
because

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01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:54,480
for example i just know it

1523
01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:57,280
i really have transmuted my grief into

1524
01:01:01,990 --> 01:00:58,799
ecstatic joy

1525
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:02,000
and i know that people maybe

1526
01:01:07,510 --> 01:01:05,280
don't understand what i'm talking about

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01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:07,520
but um

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01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:10,720
yeah people can believe what they wish

1529
01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:13,280
to believe but

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01:01:16,150 --> 01:01:15,119
this sort of thing happens to me all day

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01:01:19,510 --> 01:01:16,160
long

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01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:19,520
and it's not just corey it's many things

1533
01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:21,680
coming to me supernaturally because what

1534
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:23,520
i realized is that

1535
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:25,839
i am a spirit being

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01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:27,440
a limitless

1537
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:29,040
spirit being

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01:01:34,870 --> 01:01:31,119
and i am flowing

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01:01:37,670 --> 01:01:34,880
with grace and ease and clarity clarity

1540
01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:37,680
in a very powerful way

1541
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:40,000
just to give you an example

1542
01:01:44,069 --> 01:01:42,400
in the last

1543
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:44,079
four and a half years

1544
01:01:49,510 --> 01:01:46,640
i've greeted the loss of my assign

1545
01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:49,520
i've published 10 books

1546
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:52,000
i've traveled extensively

1547
01:01:57,670 --> 01:01:55,200
i've walked hundreds of miles

1548
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:57,680
i've produced lots of art

1549
01:02:00,069 --> 01:01:58,640
i

1550
01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:00,079
have

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01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:02,640
inspired people daily

1552
01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:05,280
i write every day i meaningfully connect

1553
01:02:11,109 --> 01:02:08,480
with people and i've done it without

1554
01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:11,119
being busy

1555
01:02:16,069 --> 01:02:15,200
the reason is because i tap in

1556
01:02:18,789 --> 01:02:16,079
to

1557
01:02:20,630 --> 01:02:18,799
my divine limitless nature which does

1558
01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:20,640
not have form

1559
01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:24,720
and i'm able to flow from my super human

1560
01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:27,680
ability without

1561
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:30,400
any hard work

1562
01:02:33,990 --> 01:02:32,319
writing a book is no harder than

1563
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:34,000
sweeping the floor that's quite an

1564
01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:36,880
accomplishment you know on this point i

1565
01:02:39,910 --> 01:02:38,880
i can't tell you how much i agree with

1566
01:02:41,430 --> 01:02:39,920
you

1567
01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:41,440
maybe i have a chip on my shoulder but

1568
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:43,200
when somebody tells me that i can't do

1569
01:02:47,109 --> 01:02:45,280
something that i'm determined to do

1570
01:02:49,349 --> 01:02:47,119
i think to myself

1571
01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:49,359
i have this spark of the divine creator

1572
01:02:52,549 --> 01:02:50,319
in me

1573
01:02:54,390 --> 01:02:52,559
i made it the same stuff that stars you

1574
01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:54,400
know i made it the same stuff that god

1575
01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:56,400
and stars are made of

1576
01:03:00,549 --> 01:02:58,799
nothing can stop me i'm a limitless you

1577
01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:00,559
know and i think that's amazing that

1578
01:03:04,470 --> 01:03:03,280
you've been able to tap into that i try

1579
01:03:06,710 --> 01:03:04,480
and i do

1580
01:03:08,870 --> 01:03:06,720
do pretty well sometimes other times i

1581
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:08,880
feel a little disconnected and not so

1582
01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:11,520
limitless and powerful you know but i

1583
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:13,599
think we can all benefit let's talk

1584
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:15,200
about grief

1585
01:03:18,470 --> 01:03:16,720
sure yeah i think

1586
01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:18,480
talking about grief a little bit is a

1587
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:19,839
great uh

1588
01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:22,079
discussion uh first of all i mentioned

1589
01:03:26,950 --> 01:03:25,200
already as i realized that um

1590
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:26,960
grief is not

1591
01:03:33,349 --> 01:03:30,880
so much it's not the actual death

1592
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:33,359
the real death is the death of how i

1593
01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:35,520
thought it should be

1594
01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:38,480
and so grief isn't just the death of a

1595
01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:39,920
person it could be the death of a

1596
01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:42,160
relationship it could be death loss to

1597
01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:44,559
get health it could be a lost job a way

1598
01:03:50,309 --> 01:03:47,359
of being and it's very intense and it

1599
01:03:53,029 --> 01:03:50,319
involves so many emotions

1600
01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:53,039
sadness anxiety fear

1601
01:03:57,349 --> 01:03:54,960
to name a few anger

1602
01:03:58,950 --> 01:03:57,359
so many different parts of it

1603
01:04:02,470 --> 01:03:58,960
and through this journey i knew

1604
01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:02,480
intuitively to feel all of my feelings

1605
01:04:05,829 --> 01:04:03,440
and

1606
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:05,839
essentially what has happened is through

1607
01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:08,240
the course of time and i knew

1608
01:04:13,109 --> 01:04:10,880
i responded to grief by going out and

1609
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:13,119
meaningfully connecting in love to

1610
01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:15,599
others that was my therapy and writing

1611
01:04:18,710 --> 01:04:17,760
writing these books was very cathartic

1612
01:04:21,029 --> 01:04:18,720
as well

1613
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:21,039
so as i'm going through this i'm like i

1614
01:04:26,150 --> 01:04:24,640
keep keep opening and i knew that uh

1615
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:26,160
embodying

1616
01:04:29,029 --> 01:04:28,000
unconditional love

1617
01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:29,039
is

1618
01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:32,000
what the direction i was going in and so

1619
01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:34,640
after about a year um spirit told me

1620
01:04:38,710 --> 01:04:36,960
slow down be still

1621
01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:38,720
start going inward you've been going

1622
01:04:43,750 --> 01:04:41,520
outward i want you to start right now

1623
01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:43,760
and start learning how

1624
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:45,119
to love

1625
01:04:48,870 --> 01:04:46,720
your darkness

1626
01:04:51,510 --> 01:04:48,880
all of your anger your sadness your

1627
01:04:53,589 --> 01:04:51,520
jealousy your disappointment your

1628
01:04:57,589 --> 01:04:53,599
anxiety your fear

1629
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:57,599
and i've embarked on a journey

1630
01:05:01,190 --> 01:05:00,000
i called them like minnie deaf it was

1631
01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:01,200
like

1632
01:05:06,789 --> 01:05:03,839
i would create my soul would create

1633
01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:06,799
these situations to mirror

1634
01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:08,960
my fear of abandonment rejection which

1635
01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:10,640
by the way death is like the ultimate

1636
01:05:14,230 --> 01:05:12,000
abandonment

1637
01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:14,240
and so what was happening is i was

1638
01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:16,559
creating my soul is creating an

1639
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:18,480
experience for my humans

1640
01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:20,240
like i told you we were both the

1641
01:05:24,069 --> 01:05:22,880
principal actors in our plays and the

1642
01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:24,079
creator

1643
01:05:26,950 --> 01:05:25,920
that's creating this experience so we

1644
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:26,960
can help

1645
01:05:32,870 --> 01:05:30,400
evolve our aspect of the collective so i

1646
01:05:34,390 --> 01:05:32,880
realized this and so uh you know

1647
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:34,400
somebody would do something would

1648
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:37,680
trigger me i felt like complete crap and

1649
01:05:42,309 --> 01:05:39,760
i would go through my process of

1650
01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:42,319
[\h__\h] learning how to be present with

1651
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:44,000
whatever arises

1652
01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:46,720
crazy because we are not conditioned to

1653
01:05:49,270 --> 01:05:48,319
be present

1654
01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:49,280
so

1655
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:50,559
presence

1656
01:05:56,230 --> 01:05:54,000
is so powerful it's how we tap in

1657
01:05:58,309 --> 01:05:56,240
to our divine limitless nature and the

1658
01:05:59,510 --> 01:05:58,319
reason is because

1659
01:06:01,349 --> 01:05:59,520
we are

1660
01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:01,359
presence itself

1661
01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:03,920
and it's not part of our habituated way

1662
01:06:10,789 --> 01:06:08,160
of being human so it requires practices

1663
01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:10,799
to reprogram ourselves so i started on

1664
01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:12,240
little things corey taught me these

1665
01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:13,440
things

1666
01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:18,400
mindfulness

1667
01:06:25,270 --> 01:06:21,760
meditation practices breast work to try

1668
01:06:28,069 --> 01:06:25,280
to keep bringing myself to this moment

1669
01:06:30,789 --> 01:06:28,079
and then it progressed to now what's

1670
01:06:32,789 --> 01:06:30,799
here in this moment being aware of all

1671
01:06:34,630 --> 01:06:32,799
of these parts of myself

1672
01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:34,640
and i consider these

1673
01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:37,440
my sadness my fear my anger almost like

1674
01:06:41,670 --> 01:06:39,520
little girls and they're like

1675
01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:41,680
they've been walked away in the basement

1676
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:44,160
of my heart abandoned and rejected and

1677
01:06:50,309 --> 01:06:47,680
they're ready to come out and be sad and

1678
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:50,319
be loved and accepted exactly as they

1679
01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:51,119
are

1680
01:06:55,029 --> 01:06:52,799
you know as small children we start

1681
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:55,039
abandoning rejecting parts of ourselves

1682
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:56,160
we have to

1683
01:06:59,510 --> 01:06:57,599
to survive

1684
01:07:01,750 --> 01:06:59,520
and so we have this human experience of

1685
01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:01,760
feeling separate from everything and

1686
01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:05,039
everyone so i became here

1687
01:07:09,510 --> 01:07:07,039
in order to heal something

1688
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:09,520
you must first experience it

1689
01:07:13,270 --> 01:07:11,119
so all that you went through in your

1690
01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:13,280
life that's what you bring that's your

1691
01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:14,960
gift

1692
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:16,880
you are able to work through your

1693
01:07:22,870 --> 01:07:20,640
journey and and harmonize these parts of

1694
01:07:25,510 --> 01:07:22,880
yourself that you make sure you can

1695
01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:25,520
choose that to harmonize these parts of

1696
01:07:30,710 --> 01:07:28,400
yourself back into the love that we are

1697
01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:30,720
and i know that sounds foreign but i'd

1698
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:33,440
love to share a very quick story to help

1699
01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:35,520
explain what i mean because this is not

1700
01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:37,440
part of our human thinking

1701
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:40,240
beauty and the beast the beast the beast

1702
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:43,200
is the prince in disguise waiting

1703
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:45,440
for the kiss of unconditional love she

1704
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:47,039
said in free

1705
01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:49,520
and belle can't know that he's the

1706
01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:52,000
prince she must love him as the beast

1707
01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:54,480
when she kisses him he walks back into

1708
01:07:57,990 --> 01:07:55,760
the clinic

1709
01:08:00,470 --> 01:07:58,000
and through this process what was shown

1710
01:08:01,829 --> 01:08:00,480
to me is that fear

1711
01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,839
it's the beast

1712
01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:03,200
it's love

1713
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:04,559
in the sky

1714
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:06,160
as the gift

1715
01:08:11,029 --> 01:08:08,240
and when we offer it

1716
01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:11,039
unconditional love and acceptance

1717
01:08:16,229 --> 01:08:14,160
it walks back into the love that it is

1718
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:16,239
so my servant

1719
01:08:20,149 --> 01:08:17,839
is my joy

1720
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:20,159
in disguise and saddening

1721
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:22,400
when i'm able to be present with it and

1722
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:26,239
hold it and we love it exactly as it is

1723
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:29,520
it's transmuted back into the joy and it

1724
01:08:33,590 --> 01:08:32,640
is that's where i have so much ecstatic

1725
01:08:37,749 --> 01:08:33,600
joy

1726
01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:37,759
about everything in cory's life and that

1727
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:41,520
because i've been pouring out so much

1728
01:08:44,709 --> 01:08:43,440
love and presence upon

1729
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:44,719
myself

1730
01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:47,440
my anxiety is my excitement for life

1731
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:50,560
my anger my passion and my power

1732
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:52,719
when i'm able to offer these parts to

1733
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:53,839
myself

1734
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:55,920
love and acceptance

1735
01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:58,080
they morph back into the love that they

1736
01:09:01,430 --> 01:08:59,040
are

1737
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:01,440
and so this is the journey

1738
01:09:07,990 --> 01:09:05,120
of healing and harmonizing reuniting

1739
01:09:10,550 --> 01:09:08,000
these human parts of ourselves back into

1740
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:10,560
the love that we are

1741
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:12,400
when we're able to do this we keep

1742
01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:16,480
opening opening and waking up to who we

1743
01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:18,960
are which is all that is

1744
01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:22,400
as one it's love itself

1745
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:25,359
that's who we are presence itself pure

1746
01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:26,640
consciousness

1747
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:28,960
having a human experience

1748
01:09:34,229 --> 01:09:31,120
like i told you corey told me in that

1749
01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:34,239
meditation remember you are a source in

1750
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:35,920
a human body

1751
01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:38,400
we're here in human bodies because we

1752
01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:39,839
have work to do

1753
01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:41,120
and our work

1754
01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:43,679
is to evolve our aspect of the

1755
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:44,880
collective

1756
01:09:49,910 --> 01:09:48,159
and we do it by being present here now

1757
01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:49,920
with love and acceptance to whatever

1758
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:51,279
arises

1759
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:54,080
and my gosh that's a process

1760
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:54,880
yes

1761
01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:56,080
i was just going to say that's a lot

1762
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:58,400
easier said than done no offense and

1763
01:10:01,189 --> 01:09:59,280
listen

1764
01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:01,199
i have tremendous respect that you've

1765
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:03,280
been able to do that but for some

1766
01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:05,360
some of us it's not so easy it's much

1767
01:10:10,229 --> 01:10:07,920
easier said than done it's not

1768
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:10,239
and even then it's all okay

1769
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:12,320
we can't really see from our human point

1770
01:10:16,630 --> 01:10:14,320
of view we think that person who's the

1771
01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:16,640
drug addict or the one in the uh on the

1772
01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:18,800
street corner or whatever

1773
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:20,960
homeless guy or the person in the jail

1774
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:23,120
we think they're just going down the

1775
01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:25,360
wrong road nope

1776
01:10:29,830 --> 01:10:27,440
that's what they came to heal

1777
01:10:31,910 --> 01:10:29,840
that's their process wherever they are

1778
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:31,920
in their process it's part of their

1779
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:33,679
journey and it's an important part of

1780
01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:35,280
their journey because they must

1781
01:10:39,110 --> 01:10:37,679
experience it first and not only that

1782
01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:39,120
they get to choose how they're going to

1783
01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:42,080
evolve their aspect of the collective

1784
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:45,199
so it's all a matter of perspective and

1785
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:46,320
realize

1786
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:48,000
when you go to a play

1787
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:50,560
and the actors come out on stage at the

1788
01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:52,880
end of the play you've got your hero and

1789
01:10:55,910 --> 01:10:54,320
you've got your villain

1790
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:55,920
and they're in custody and they're

1791
01:11:02,070 --> 01:10:59,840
taking a bow and we're promo hero you

1792
01:11:05,669 --> 01:11:02,080
are a wonderful hero goggle

1793
01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:05,679
villain you are so good because we know

1794
01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:08,560
that there's an actor and a costume

1795
01:11:11,669 --> 01:11:10,239
and each of us

1796
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:11,679
are source

1797
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:15,040
source instead god and costume

1798
01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:16,239
sometimes

1799
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:18,159
we play the role of the hero because

1800
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:19,840
sometimes we play the role of the

1801
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:20,960
villain

1802
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:22,960
but we're still source

1803
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:24,640
you have to have the villain in order

1804
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:27,040
for the stories progress

1805
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:29,760
and the villain plays his role or her

1806
01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:30,719
role

1807
01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:32,320
at a great price

1808
01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:34,560
they're only suffering

1809
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:36,800
so we're all doing this play we're in

1810
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:40,000
these movies that we created to bring us

1811
01:11:42,950 --> 01:11:41,760
forward in human consciousness and

1812
01:11:44,229 --> 01:11:42,960
evolution

1813
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:44,239
and

1814
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:47,040
no one is better than the other

1815
01:11:53,270 --> 01:11:50,560
we're all sores in costing and god in

1816
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:53,280
costume source and skin

1817
01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:54,880
sure that's a good way to look at it i

1818
01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:57,520
have a few more questions from listeners

1819
01:12:01,189 --> 01:11:58,800
that i happen to know are very

1820
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:01,199
interested in ghosts in the afterlife

1821
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:03,280
and if you don't mind i have here one

1822
01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:05,440
from john that i think is very important

1823
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:06,320
question

1824
01:12:11,110 --> 01:12:09,040
john in new york asked has your son

1825
01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:11,120
moved on into the light is he still an

1826
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:13,679
earthbound spirit and are you still in

1827
01:12:22,310 --> 01:12:19,510
um i am still in communication with him

1828
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:22,320
but he is not an earthbound he has moved

1829
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:24,800
on right away and that's what i was

1830
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:26,640
trying to explain to you when we talk

1831
01:12:31,270 --> 01:12:28,080
about goats

1832
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:31,280
it's very real ghosts are very real

1833
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:33,280
and they're usually

1834
01:12:42,630 --> 01:12:34,000
uh

1835
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:44,950
yeah i've heard the energy i've heard

1836
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:46,880
i've heard from different i don't want

1837
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:48,719
to call them experts but people that are

1838
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:51,360
very uh probably much more knowledgeable

1839
01:12:58,149 --> 01:12:54,960
about ghosts than me who told me that if

1840
01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:58,159
a spirit is communicating with you

1841
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:59,920
then they are earthbound but you're

1842
01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:01,440
saying that's not the case that they

1843
01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:03,040
haven't moved on that's what people have

1844
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:04,960
told me and that they can't move on

1845
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:07,280
until that's gonna finish whatever

1846
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:09,199
they're they're supposed to be

1847
01:13:13,030 --> 01:13:11,600
what they're still tied to in this world

1848
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:13,040
or this realm

1849
01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:14,320
but you believe something different

1850
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:16,640
about yourself okay so as spirit as

1851
01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:19,199
spirit they're not confined by time and

1852
01:13:24,149 --> 01:13:21,040
space

1853
01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:24,159
and so the very reason yeah they're not

1854
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:26,159
we are confined to time and space and

1855
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:28,560
we're stuck in this viewpoint of

1856
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:30,640
oh gosh there's something wrong because

1857
01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:32,800
they're communicating with humans

1858
01:13:37,830 --> 01:13:35,120
they're here to support us

1859
01:13:39,510 --> 01:13:37,840
how else are they going to support us if

1860
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:39,520
they don't communicate

1861
01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:41,920
with us they don't want to just like

1862
01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:44,239
boom please you're there you're on your

1863
01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:47,440
own no it's source energy it's love the

1864
01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:50,000
universe is conspiring to help us

1865
01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:51,840
succeed and grow

1866
01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:53,840
and heal

1867
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:54,560
so

1868
01:14:01,510 --> 01:13:58,000
that's just a viewpoint that's valid but

1869
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:01,520
it's coming from our limited human way

1870
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:09,830
yeah that's a very good way of looking

1871
01:14:15,669 --> 01:14:13,120
at it and i have i have another question

1872
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:15,679
from michelle who's in delaware who

1873
01:14:19,510 --> 01:14:17,520
happens to be a member of a ghost

1874
01:14:21,669 --> 01:14:19,520
hunting organization if you know

1875
01:14:24,229 --> 01:14:21,679
anything about those who asks

1876
01:14:26,470 --> 01:14:24,239
uh has there been any scientific inquiry

1877
01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:26,480
into your claims or have you contacted

1878
01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:28,480
any ghost hunting organizations who may

1879
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:30,239
be able to bring

1880
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:32,719
scientific measuring equipment and other

1881
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:34,560
science to bear

1882
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:37,120
on your experiences

1883
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:39,120
you know i'm aware that they are

1884
01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:42,400
interested in that because okay the

1885
01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:43,520
reason why

1886
01:14:45,910 --> 01:14:45,199
is that because i made the distinction

1887
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:45,920
that

1888
01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:47,520
he's not a ghost

1889
01:14:51,990 --> 01:14:49,760
oh sure i i understand

1890
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:52,000
and so but i think her point i think her

1891
01:14:55,750 --> 01:14:53,920
point is that some of these i think her

1892
01:14:58,149 --> 01:14:55,760
point is that some of these

1893
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:58,159
organizations have you know they have

1894
01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:00,239
like magnetometers that can measure

1895
01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:03,199
magnetic anomalies that sometimes are

1896
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:04,480
uh

1897
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:07,760
are present when some spirit is nearby

1898
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:10,000
they have these weird communication kind

1899
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:12,719
of devices that they ask the spirits

1900
01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:14,560
to interact with

1901
01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:16,480
and so i think she's asking have you

1902
01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:18,480
gone that route because it would be

1903
01:15:23,189 --> 01:15:20,640
interesting to see what would happen

1904
01:15:25,350 --> 01:15:23,199
to see if if there's you know some

1905
01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:25,360
scientifically measurable

1906
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:27,360
effects when you feel that that

1907
01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:29,840
communication is taking place or when

1908
01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,480
he's present with you

1909
01:15:37,510 --> 01:15:34,080
you know that's what i think the trust

1910
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:41,510
i can appreciate that as well however

1911
01:15:45,430 --> 01:15:42,560
uh

1912
01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:45,440
i don't need to prove that he's

1913
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:47,920
communicating with me to anyone

1914
01:15:53,430 --> 01:15:51,600
it's not for me to say

1915
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:53,440
all you all have to know that this is

1916
01:15:57,350 --> 01:15:54,880
all

1917
01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:57,360
support that i'm getting from corey

1918
01:16:00,870 --> 01:15:58,159
and

1919
01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:00,880
so while i don't negate i know that

1920
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:03,440
those equipments and all that are

1921
01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:06,480
valuable and a lot of times though they

1922
01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:08,800
they do measure like haunted houses or

1923
01:16:15,270 --> 01:16:12,159
places like that they measure the energy

1924
01:16:16,390 --> 01:16:15,280
uh that's in the space i don't have the

1925
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:16,400
same

1926
01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:17,760
um

1927
01:16:23,189 --> 01:16:19,920
experience like it's not like my house

1928
01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:23,199
is haunted or anything like that it's

1929
01:16:29,189 --> 01:16:26,320
it's a personal thing i actually i have

1930
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:29,199
a ringing in my ears it's because of the

1931
01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:32,719
frequency level of force that's so

1932
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:36,239
close to me supporting me it's so high

1933
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:37,760
and so i

1934
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:40,640
it's not like he's he's stuck and he's

1935
01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:42,880
not stuck here and so there's no reason

1936
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:44,880
for me i don't even to prove anything to

1937
01:16:46,870 --> 01:16:45,840
anyone

1938
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:46,880
because

1939
01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:54,310
and knowing this listener i think she's

1940
01:16:58,149 --> 01:16:56,080
just curious because she would like to

1941
01:17:00,790 --> 01:16:58,159
know if you if you tried these kind of

1942
01:17:03,110 --> 01:17:00,800
uh scientific measurings you know and

1943
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:03,120
equipment that these kind of groups have

1944
01:17:06,229 --> 01:17:04,880
she didn't mean it in a disrespectful i

1945
01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:06,239
will tell you

1946
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:08,320
no no not at all

1947
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,960
i appreciate her asking a question um i

1948
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:12,719
will tell you that

1949
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:14,640
my own energy

1950
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:17,840
is very powerful and i can sometimes i

1951
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:19,920
blow out light bulbs that mess up with

1952
01:17:24,470 --> 01:17:21,440
technology

1953
01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:24,480
uh all kind of crazy things happen

1954
01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:27,360
things go off spontaneously

1955
01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:29,040
one time

1956
01:17:32,470 --> 01:17:30,560
the in the very

1957
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:32,480
first year

1958
01:17:37,669 --> 01:17:34,800
i had on my screen

1959
01:17:38,870 --> 01:17:37,679
lock screen of my phone i had a picture

1960
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:38,880
of corey

1961
01:17:42,390 --> 01:17:40,239
and

1962
01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:42,400
i had the phone on the counter i did not

1963
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:43,440
touch it

1964
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:45,120
i passed the counter and all of a sudden

1965
01:17:53,830 --> 01:17:51,270
i don't tell my husband did you ask my

1966
01:17:56,470 --> 01:17:53,840
phone he said no i said well hello cory

1967
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:56,480
you just want to say hi

1968
01:17:59,590 --> 01:17:58,719
what he does yeah that's strange and i

1969
01:18:01,910 --> 01:17:59,600
and

1970
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:01,920
i guess i i have one more question from

1971
01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:04,880
a listener uh that uh you you kind of

1972
01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:06,719
touched on this but i'm gonna ask you

1973
01:18:12,149 --> 01:18:09,840
anyway because you know i i i like that

1974
01:18:14,070 --> 01:18:12,159
this person took the time to send in the

1975
01:18:15,590 --> 01:18:14,080
question and and i think it's an

1976
01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:15,600
important question and again i hope you

1977
01:18:19,350 --> 01:18:17,280
won't find this question disrespectful

1978
01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:19,360
in any way

1979
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:22,320
no i'm not disrespectful

1980
01:18:28,229 --> 01:18:23,920
oh sure so

1981
01:18:31,910 --> 01:18:28,239
so we have kelly in salt lake city utah

1982
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:31,920
uh who asks uh well what she says is

1983
01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:34,640
demonic forces or demons sometimes

1984
01:18:39,910 --> 01:18:37,440
masquerade as departed loved ones how

1985
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:39,920
can you be sure that this is not the

1986
01:18:47,189 --> 01:18:45,910
so um

1987
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:47,199
i

1988
01:19:02,149 --> 01:19:00,800
they bear

1989
01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:02,159
so

1990
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,560
um corey has led me to this place of

1991
01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:06,719
unconditional love

1992
01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:23,030
to her or her question but it is from

1993
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:24,880
our human way of seeing things that

1994
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:27,679
she's asking that because our human is

1995
01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:29,840
very dualistic and everything is right

1996
01:19:35,430 --> 01:19:32,239
and wrong good and bad and we have these

1997
01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:35,440
evil forces and these um

1998
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:37,920
good forces and and

1999
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:40,000
that's how we experience things as

2000
01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:41,440
humans

2001
01:19:46,229 --> 01:19:43,679
but when you get up and you get into the

2002
01:19:48,550 --> 01:19:46,239
helicopter view if you remember the

2003
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:48,560
story i just told you about beauty and

2004
01:19:52,550 --> 01:19:49,679
the beast

2005
01:19:54,950 --> 01:19:52,560
what we can't see as humans having this

2006
01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:54,960
period this experience of

2007
01:20:00,709 --> 01:19:57,840
of separation and suffering

2008
01:20:02,310 --> 01:20:00,719
we what we can't see is that it's all

2009
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:02,320
love

2010
01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:06,159
disguise

2011
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:08,159
waiting to be recognized loved and

2012
01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:11,280
accepted and so it's it's a limited

2013
01:20:17,110 --> 01:20:14,000
perspective that

2014
01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:17,120
causes us to demonize and

2015
01:20:21,910 --> 01:20:18,560
push away

2016
01:20:24,149 --> 01:20:21,920
the very parts of ourselves

2017
01:20:25,350 --> 01:20:24,159
that want our love and attention and

2018
01:20:29,189 --> 01:20:25,360
want to be

2019
01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:29,199
harmonized and healed

2020
01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:31,120
sure and you know i think you mentioned

2021
01:20:35,910 --> 01:20:33,600
the religious aspect before i i mean i

2022
01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:35,920
grew up catholic and uh and to my

2023
01:20:40,310 --> 01:20:38,880
knowledge to most christians necromancy

2024
01:20:41,910 --> 01:20:40,320
is forbidden

2025
01:20:44,229 --> 01:20:41,920
and and i'd like to

2026
01:20:45,110 --> 01:20:44,239
i would just like your thoughts on on

2027
01:20:47,110 --> 01:20:45,120
that

2028
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:47,120
what like why would it be forgiven or

2029
01:20:51,830 --> 01:20:49,280
why would it be forbidden do you believe

2030
01:20:54,149 --> 01:20:51,840
that it's a sin or do you

2031
01:20:57,110 --> 01:20:54,159
based on your experience do you

2032
01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:57,120
do you have a different opinion because

2033
01:21:01,990 --> 01:20:59,840
a lot of christian people and i believe

2034
01:21:04,709 --> 01:21:02,000
even muslims and jews believe that

2035
01:21:07,030 --> 01:21:04,719
necromancy or speaking to the dead

2036
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:07,040
communicating with the dead is a sin or

2037
01:21:11,590 --> 01:21:09,679
is forbidden by their faith yes and did

2038
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:11,600
that hold you back at all if you had

2039
01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:27,189
even though a lot was coming to me i

2040
01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:31,280
wasn't entirely open until i realized oh

2041
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:33,440
this is what i'm doing here i'm limiting

2042
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:36,239
myself to what's possible because i'm

2043
01:21:39,830 --> 01:21:37,360
trying to

2044
01:21:41,350 --> 01:21:39,840
work within human limitations and

2045
01:21:44,390 --> 01:21:41,360
viewpoints

2046
01:21:45,590 --> 01:21:44,400
so i respect

2047
01:21:48,550 --> 01:21:45,600
religion

2048
01:21:51,910 --> 01:21:48,560
i respect viewpoints

2049
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:51,920
that people think it's wrong to talk to

2050
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:54,800
departed loved ones

2051
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:57,920
but i also realized that

2052
01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:59,440
their viewpoint

2053
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:01,520
completely valid completely there's

2054
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:04,080
nothing wrong with their viewpoint

2055
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:05,760
it's just that it's coming from their

2056
01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:07,840
human way of seeing things

2057
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:11,679
which is extremely limited and so this

2058
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:14,639
human part of us feels so separate and

2059
01:22:18,870 --> 01:22:16,719
it creates this

2060
01:22:21,750 --> 01:22:18,880
this dynamic where everything is either

2061
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:21,760
good or bad or right or wrong and and we

2062
01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:24,480
wind up going round and round and round

2063
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:27,120
and round fighting evil

2064
01:22:31,910 --> 01:22:30,719
and not realizing that what we fight we

2065
01:22:34,470 --> 01:22:31,920
strengthen

2066
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:34,480
and what we resist persists

2067
01:22:38,229 --> 01:22:36,239
so religion

2068
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:38,239
has a very powerful

2069
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:40,000
way to help

2070
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:42,239
it's like a vehicle to bring us along

2071
01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:43,440
our journey

2072
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:44,560
and

2073
01:22:51,030 --> 01:22:47,520
i am very grateful for that vehicle but

2074
01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:51,040
i came to a point in my

2075
01:22:55,350 --> 01:22:53,679
journey and not everybody never gets to

2076
01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:55,360
this point but i came to a point it's

2077
01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:58,000
almost like uh

2078
01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:00,400
having training wheels on a bike or some

2079
01:23:04,149 --> 01:23:02,320
sort of like a mountain where you're

2080
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:04,159
going up and you don't really know which

2081
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:06,480
way to go so there's like rails on both

2082
01:23:11,030 --> 01:23:08,880
sides to kind of guide your path and so

2083
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:11,040
at some point

2084
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:13,520
they it became limiting to me and it was

2085
01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:15,840
like if you had this kid to have put on

2086
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:17,360
a pair of pants and the next summer they

2087
01:23:21,910 --> 01:23:19,360
put it on and it's like five inches too

2088
01:23:22,709 --> 01:23:21,920
short and they can't zip it up

2089
01:23:27,350 --> 01:23:22,719
so

2090
01:23:30,070 --> 01:23:27,360
such a beautiful way

2091
01:23:32,950 --> 01:23:30,080
all of a sudden began to limit me and i

2092
01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:32,960
decided to let go of the limits

2093
01:23:40,950 --> 01:23:37,120
and that flung me into our limitless

2094
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:40,960
nature and that perspective uh

2095
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:43,040
is completely different it's a

2096
01:23:48,310 --> 01:23:45,760
non-dualistic perspective and it

2097
01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:48,320
recognizes that

2098
01:23:54,790 --> 01:23:51,600
what we see as wrong and bad and sin and

2099
01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:54,800
all that verbiage is very very valid way

2100
01:24:00,310 --> 01:23:57,840
of of being but it's so limited and it

2101
01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:00,320
keeps us in suffering and what would

2102
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:02,960
what we have the opportunity to do is to

2103
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:06,480
wake up to our divine limitless nature

2104
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:09,040
and to hold these parts of us that are

2105
01:24:12,390 --> 01:24:10,480
so afraid

2106
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:12,400
and so angry

2107
01:24:17,430 --> 01:24:15,600
and so sad and just to love it like you

2108
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:17,440
would a child that's been bullied on the

2109
01:24:22,149 --> 01:24:18,960
playground

2110
01:24:24,310 --> 01:24:22,159
just hold that fear

2111
01:24:26,629 --> 01:24:24,320
it's completely different outlook and

2112
01:24:28,790 --> 01:24:26,639
it's a complete flip

2113
01:24:31,430 --> 01:24:28,800
on everything we're ever taught as

2114
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:31,440
humans but this is how we open and wake

2115
01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:34,080
up to who we are this is how we embody

2116
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:40,149
well it's an excellent way to look at it

2117
01:24:45,510 --> 01:24:42,800
and i i just wanted to to say although i

2118
01:24:47,669 --> 01:24:45,520
was raised catholic i'm not any longer

2119
01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:47,679
catholic and uh i don't believe that

2120
01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:50,239
it's a sin to to explore these things

2121
01:24:54,709 --> 01:24:53,040
and i'll just leave it at that because

2122
01:24:56,310 --> 01:24:54,719
you know

2123
01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:56,320
i think a lot of that is power in

2124
01:24:59,590 --> 01:24:57,520
control

2125
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:59,600
from a religious perspective

2126
01:25:02,229 --> 01:25:00,719
you know

2127
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:02,239
you have to get your answers you have to

2128
01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:04,880
get your answers from us not from

2129
01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:07,520
departing loved ones or from or from any

2130
01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:08,639
other source

2131
01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:11,520
so it could be that yes

2132
01:25:16,629 --> 01:25:13,600
yes yes

2133
01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:16,639
i appreciate that perspective

2134
01:25:20,229 --> 01:25:18,560
now i i i guess one of the other

2135
01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:20,239
questions that i wanted to ask you is

2136
01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:22,560
that you're you're entirely sure that

2137
01:25:26,629 --> 01:25:24,880
this is your departed son kind of just

2138
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:26,639
to touch on that again has there been

2139
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:28,960
things that he said or did that only he

2140
01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:31,199
would know and you would know that made

2141
01:25:36,709 --> 01:25:33,600
you so sure that this was definitely him

2142
01:25:36,719 --> 01:25:42,790
yeah well yeah um i

2143
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:47,270
yeah i'm just looking here and um

2144
01:25:51,030 --> 01:25:48,470
i just

2145
01:25:52,709 --> 01:25:51,040
i can't off the top of my head

2146
01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:52,719
think of

2147
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:55,520
an actual well here's one

2148
01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:02,629
i was uh i had this dream

2149
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:03,440
and

2150
01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:05,920
i will approach this carport whenever

2151
01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:08,960
you dream about like cars or carports

2152
01:26:12,550 --> 01:26:10,320
it's like you're getting ready to go on

2153
01:26:13,510 --> 01:26:12,560
a trip so it's talking about your your

2154
01:26:15,430 --> 01:26:13,520
journey

2155
01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:15,440
and cory was there waiting for him and

2156
01:26:19,110 --> 01:26:17,360
he said well there you are come here we

2157
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:19,120
have a lot to talk about

2158
01:26:24,070 --> 01:26:21,360
and then he started giving me very

2159
01:26:26,629 --> 01:26:24,080
detailed information about eight

2160
01:26:30,149 --> 01:26:26,639
different people in my life

2161
01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:30,159
and he also told me about a surprise

2162
01:26:34,629 --> 01:26:32,800
that he said i think you'll like it

2163
01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:34,639
and i won't tell you what that is

2164
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:37,440
because it's personal but he went on

2165
01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:40,320
briefing me about what's going on in

2166
01:26:45,030 --> 01:26:42,239
certain people's lives

2167
01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:45,040
and how i was to interact with him and

2168
01:26:49,750 --> 01:26:47,199
he answered questions i had about

2169
01:26:51,350 --> 01:26:49,760
certain situations

2170
01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:51,360
this is the way it goes he knows these

2171
01:26:56,629 --> 01:26:54,080
things and they come to pass because

2172
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:56,639
he's guiding me

2173
01:27:00,390 --> 01:26:57,840
wow

2174
01:27:03,189 --> 01:27:00,400
and you know you you mentioned several

2175
01:27:05,350 --> 01:27:03,199
times this belief that you have that

2176
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:05,360
maybe your son was

2177
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:07,280
here to teach you about

2178
01:27:11,910 --> 01:27:09,760
the fact that we're all limitless

2179
01:27:15,669 --> 01:27:11,920
you know uh

2180
01:27:19,189 --> 01:27:15,679
beings absolutely imbued with the source

2181
01:27:22,310 --> 01:27:19,199
and that you know we're limitless

2182
01:27:23,669 --> 01:27:22,320
in our potential and i find it amazing

2183
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:23,679
like you were saying some of the things

2184
01:27:28,550 --> 01:27:26,480
that you're able to accomplish with ease

2185
01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:28,560
and uh maybe this is

2186
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:29,520
just a

2187
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:32,400
selfish question but and but maybe we

2188
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:34,480
could all benefit from this i'd like you

2189
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:37,120
to to talk about how

2190
01:27:43,030 --> 01:27:39,760
i or any one of my listeners can get

2191
01:27:44,870 --> 01:27:43,040
more in touch with that source and that

2192
01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:44,880
divine energy

2193
01:27:49,830 --> 01:27:46,880
and that limitless

2194
01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:49,840
abilities that you believe we all have

2195
01:27:55,590 --> 01:27:53,520
and put it to good use how do we do that

2196
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:55,600
because i'd like to know

2197
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:56,960
by being

2198
01:28:03,110 --> 01:28:00,960
present here now

2199
01:28:04,470 --> 01:28:03,120
with love and acceptance to whatever

2200
01:28:06,629 --> 01:28:04,480
arises

2201
01:28:09,590 --> 01:28:06,639
so let me clarify this

2202
01:28:10,709 --> 01:28:09,600
being present is not part of our human

2203
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:10,719
programming

2204
01:28:14,470 --> 01:28:12,480
and so in order to

2205
01:28:17,669 --> 01:28:14,480
reprogram ourselves

2206
01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:17,679
we can use practices

2207
01:28:22,629 --> 01:28:18,560
to

2208
01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:22,639
so for me

2209
01:28:26,709 --> 01:28:25,120
i first i started meditation practice i

2210
01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:26,719
encourage people to start with five

2211
01:28:31,110 --> 01:28:28,800
minutes just to steal for five minutes

2212
01:28:33,030 --> 01:28:31,120
we're not conditioned to sit still

2213
01:28:34,790 --> 01:28:33,040
learning how to control

2214
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:34,800
learning how to bring ourselves to this

2215
01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:36,960
moment then i would do things like i

2216
01:28:41,189 --> 01:28:39,120
would think of my breath her breath is

2217
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:41,199
always with us it's our spacious

2218
01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:43,440
infinite essence and i would just bring

2219
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:45,280
my attention to my breath throughout the

2220
01:28:53,189 --> 01:28:51,669
here's my breath bringing me into this

2221
01:28:55,910 --> 01:28:53,199
moment uh

2222
01:28:57,830 --> 01:28:55,920
if i take the broom sweep the floor i

2223
01:28:58,870 --> 01:28:57,840
hold the broom this is corey taught me

2224
01:29:00,870 --> 01:28:58,880
all day

2225
01:29:03,189 --> 01:29:00,880
i hold the brew i feel the broom in my

2226
01:29:04,070 --> 01:29:03,199
hand i feel it touching the floor i'm

2227
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:04,080
putting

2228
01:29:07,430 --> 01:29:06,239
all of my focus and attention on this

2229
01:29:08,950 --> 01:29:07,440
broom

2230
01:29:12,149 --> 01:29:08,960
and i'm i'm

2231
01:29:14,390 --> 01:29:12,159
i avoid multitasking which is what i was

2232
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:14,400
really good at but i'm putting all my

2233
01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:16,880
tips i'm chopping food like really

2234
01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:17,760
really

2235
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:20,080
focusing on this food like i'm talking

2236
01:29:25,189 --> 01:29:22,639
to someone look in their eyes and really

2237
01:29:27,669 --> 01:29:25,199
really listen gently

2238
01:29:30,390 --> 01:29:27,679
if i'm eating i'm smelling the food i'm

2239
01:29:32,470 --> 01:29:30,400
looking around if i'm sitting in the car

2240
01:29:35,350 --> 01:29:32,480
i'm holding my hands on the steering

2241
01:29:37,350 --> 01:29:35,360
wheel and i feel my chair and my bottom

2242
01:29:38,390 --> 01:29:37,360
and my seat and

2243
01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:38,400
etc

2244
01:29:42,229 --> 01:29:40,800
and i and then i began to feel

2245
01:29:44,390 --> 01:29:42,239
my feelings

2246
01:29:46,709 --> 01:29:44,400
really what's here now oh i feel a

2247
01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:46,719
little bit of sadness it's here with my

2248
01:29:51,669 --> 01:29:49,120
joy both can be present at the same time

2249
01:29:52,950 --> 01:29:51,679
oh what's that and then i start becoming

2250
01:29:55,270 --> 01:29:52,960
more aware of

2251
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:55,280
what's here now what really is here now

2252
01:29:59,430 --> 01:29:56,960
what am i thinking what are my thoughts

2253
01:30:02,070 --> 01:29:59,440
what are my feelings

2254
01:30:05,189 --> 01:30:02,080
and that's the next stage once i have

2255
01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:05,199
practice at a proficiency level that i

2256
01:30:10,229 --> 01:30:07,120
can be present when there's no trauma or

2257
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:10,239
drama or feelings that i don't want

2258
01:30:14,229 --> 01:30:12,400
then i start learning how to make

2259
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:14,239
friends with myself

2260
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:16,400
first i have to be aware what's here

2261
01:30:23,830 --> 01:30:19,199
sadness is it anger is it anxiety

2262
01:30:27,030 --> 01:30:23,840
own it and abuse practices like writing

2263
01:30:28,709 --> 01:30:27,040
articulating out loud to be able to say

2264
01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:28,719
i feel sad right now

2265
01:30:34,870 --> 01:30:32,080
and i personally i treat

2266
01:30:37,669 --> 01:30:34,880
myself the work that i do as if they're

2267
01:30:40,229 --> 01:30:37,679
literally like little girls of mine so

2268
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:40,239
if sadness comes knocking at the door

2269
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:42,480
i say come on in sadness

2270
01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:44,320
and have a cup of tea

2271
01:30:48,790 --> 01:30:46,400
and tell me all about it

2272
01:30:50,390 --> 01:30:48,800
it's much like if a child got bullied on

2273
01:30:53,669 --> 01:30:50,400
the playground and

2274
01:30:54,629 --> 01:30:53,679
you put them up on your lap and and you

2275
01:30:57,510 --> 01:30:54,639
say

2276
01:30:59,590 --> 01:30:57,520
come over here tell me all about it

2277
01:31:01,990 --> 01:30:59,600
i'm so sorry

2278
01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:02,000
you suffered so much let me put a

2279
01:31:07,430 --> 01:31:04,000
band-aid on your boo-boo i want you to

2280
01:31:09,510 --> 01:31:07,440
know though you feel unwanted i want you

2281
01:31:10,870 --> 01:31:09,520
i love you so much that's very

2282
01:31:12,629 --> 01:31:10,880
interesting because i think the normal

2283
01:31:15,110 --> 01:31:12,639
human impulse when we have negative

2284
01:31:17,590 --> 01:31:15,120
emotions like sadness or anger or grief

2285
01:31:20,390 --> 01:31:17,600
is to just compartmentalize push it away

2286
01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:20,400
push it away that's what i do i i gotta

2287
01:31:24,229 --> 01:31:22,560
i i that's what we're programmed to do

2288
01:31:26,229 --> 01:31:24,239
yeah i'm really big on saying that i i

2289
01:31:28,070 --> 01:31:26,239
put things in boxes and i got a lot of

2290
01:31:30,709 --> 01:31:28,080
boxes that i'm i know i'm gonna have to

2291
01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:30,719
deal with them someday but for now i

2292
01:31:34,229 --> 01:31:32,400
just put them in the box

2293
01:31:35,830 --> 01:31:34,239
but you may choose to

2294
01:31:37,910 --> 01:31:35,840
well some things

2295
01:31:39,590 --> 01:31:37,920
some things boil out of the box and you

2296
01:31:42,830 --> 01:31:39,600
don't have a choice at some point you

2297
01:31:44,310 --> 01:31:42,840
have to deal with it you know that box

2298
01:31:45,910 --> 01:31:44,320
explodes or stephen do you know why

2299
01:31:47,750 --> 01:31:45,920
that's so

2300
01:31:49,910 --> 01:31:47,760
you know what it's though remember i

2301
01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:49,920
told you that you're the prime actor in

2302
01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:52,080
your movie and you're the producer and

2303
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:53,600
the creator

2304
01:32:01,189 --> 01:31:54,719
so

2305
01:32:03,350 --> 01:32:01,199
is actually creating your experience 100

2306
01:32:06,310 --> 01:32:03,360
for the express purpose

2307
01:32:08,550 --> 01:32:06,320
of trying to get you in touch with what

2308
01:32:10,310 --> 01:32:08,560
wants your love and attention

2309
01:32:13,110 --> 01:32:10,320
because these parts of ourselves that

2310
01:32:16,629 --> 01:32:13,120
we've pushed away we've been habituated

2311
01:32:19,430 --> 01:32:16,639
to demonize to say they're wrong and bad

2312
01:32:23,110 --> 01:32:19,440
those are actually parts of ourselves

2313
01:32:25,750 --> 01:32:23,120
wanting to be reunited harmonized back

2314
01:32:28,229 --> 01:32:25,760
into the whole of the love that we are

2315
01:32:30,390 --> 01:32:28,239
so we must be aware of them we must

2316
01:32:33,030 --> 01:32:30,400
develop practices of being present with

2317
01:32:36,390 --> 01:32:33,040
them you can only do this if you try

2318
01:32:39,430 --> 01:32:36,400
doing this by some sort of a plan or

2319
01:32:41,030 --> 01:32:39,440
strategy it's not going to work

2320
01:32:43,430 --> 01:32:41,040
not gonna work you're gonna be working

2321
01:32:45,030 --> 01:32:43,440
really hard and it's gonna be if life is

2322
01:32:47,669 --> 01:32:45,040
hard and you're having a push to do

2323
01:32:49,510 --> 01:32:47,679
something and use your willpower that's

2324
01:32:51,430 --> 01:32:49,520
using your human abilities and you're

2325
01:32:54,229 --> 01:32:51,440
gonna be very limited

2326
01:32:56,070 --> 01:32:54,239
so if you wanna you wanna love yourself

2327
01:32:59,910 --> 01:32:56,080
and embody the unconditional love that

2328
01:33:03,030 --> 01:32:59,920
you are it's not hard it just requires

2329
01:33:03,990 --> 01:33:03,040
being present here now over and over and

2330
01:33:06,229 --> 01:33:04,000
over

2331
01:33:08,790 --> 01:33:06,239
you know you didn't develop those

2332
01:33:10,149 --> 01:33:08,800
practices of not being present overnight

2333
01:33:12,070 --> 01:33:10,159
yeah a lot of ways you did that your

2334
01:33:14,310 --> 01:33:12,080
entire life a lot of what you're saying

2335
01:33:16,229 --> 01:33:14,320
is a lot like the sort of like the

2336
01:33:19,350 --> 01:33:16,239
buddhist philosophy of mindfulness and

2337
01:33:21,350 --> 01:33:19,360
awareness and i i try to practice that i

2338
01:33:23,430 --> 01:33:21,360
do do definitely try to practice that

2339
01:33:27,030 --> 01:33:23,440
and i notice that

2340
01:33:27,910 --> 01:33:27,040
when i when i am lazy or lacks on doing

2341
01:33:29,990 --> 01:33:27,920
that

2342
01:33:32,229 --> 01:33:30,000
things don't go as well for me

2343
01:33:33,830 --> 01:33:32,239
you know just in personal interactions

2344
01:33:35,590 --> 01:33:33,840
you know with my children

2345
01:33:38,310 --> 01:33:35,600
if i if i take the time to do these

2346
01:33:40,229 --> 01:33:38,320
things i'm a much better father and much

2347
01:33:41,990 --> 01:33:40,239
more patient much more loving and

2348
01:33:43,590 --> 01:33:42,000
understanding instead of flying off the

2349
01:33:46,070 --> 01:33:43,600
handle and getting pissed off and

2350
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:46,080
screaming at them which i'm human i'm

2351
01:33:52,229 --> 01:33:48,480
gonna do that from time to time

2352
01:33:55,510 --> 01:33:52,239
you know yes and that's only when you do

2353
01:33:57,910 --> 01:33:55,520
do that what's there now is your anger

2354
01:34:00,550 --> 01:33:57,920
and anger wants your love and attention

2355
01:34:02,870 --> 01:34:00,560
so being able to say well looky here

2356
01:34:05,750 --> 01:34:02,880
anger wants my love

2357
01:34:08,550 --> 01:34:05,760
and so just gently and kindly as we're

2358
01:34:10,790 --> 01:34:08,560
ready learning how to be with parts of

2359
01:34:13,669 --> 01:34:10,800
ourselves little by little not forcing

2360
01:34:15,910 --> 01:34:13,679
ourselves to do a single thing you know

2361
01:34:18,550 --> 01:34:15,920
we have so much uh

2362
01:34:21,189 --> 01:34:18,560
impetus to try to make ourselves be

2363
01:34:23,990 --> 01:34:21,199
better be better parents be better

2364
01:34:26,149 --> 01:34:24,000
people and we whip ourselves into shape

2365
01:34:28,149 --> 01:34:26,159
that's not your highest self that's your

2366
01:34:31,110 --> 01:34:28,159
spiritual ego

2367
01:34:32,550 --> 01:34:31,120
so your highest self is very gentle and

2368
01:34:34,310 --> 01:34:32,560
kind

2369
01:34:36,470 --> 01:34:34,320
and so little by little learning how to

2370
01:34:39,830 --> 01:34:36,480
be kind with ourselves

2371
01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:39,840
no i'm gonna just practice what's here

2372
01:34:44,629 --> 01:34:42,320
now what wants my love and attention and

2373
01:34:47,189 --> 01:34:44,639
again from a buddhist perspective

2374
01:34:48,950 --> 01:34:47,199
that would be loving kindness is is kind

2375
01:34:51,270 --> 01:34:48,960
of the thing that you're discussing

2376
01:34:53,030 --> 01:34:51,280
there and i try to do that as well

2377
01:34:55,030 --> 01:34:53,040
because that's just a better way to be

2378
01:34:56,709 --> 01:34:55,040
when somebody's angry at you if you

2379
01:34:58,390 --> 01:34:56,719
approach them with love and kindness and

2380
01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:58,400
understanding it's going to go better

2381
01:35:03,910 --> 01:35:00,880
than if you just mirror their anger and

2382
01:35:06,550 --> 01:35:03,920
resentment and you know or whatever

2383
01:35:08,550 --> 01:35:06,560
although if if somebody this is this is

2384
01:35:11,830 --> 01:35:08,560
something that's really powerful

2385
01:35:13,430 --> 01:35:11,840
i've learned to use every single thing

2386
01:35:16,390 --> 01:35:13,440
in my experience

2387
01:35:17,669 --> 01:35:16,400
to find out what wants my love and

2388
01:35:20,629 --> 01:35:17,679
attention

2389
01:35:22,310 --> 01:35:20,639
so if you say something hurtful to me

2390
01:35:24,790 --> 01:35:22,320
you trigger me

2391
01:35:26,390 --> 01:35:24,800
instead of me saying you stop that

2392
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:26,400
steven i don't like it and i don't want

2393
01:35:31,510 --> 01:35:29,040
to feel those feelings and pushing away

2394
01:35:33,030 --> 01:35:31,520
those feelings off projecting them back

2395
01:35:36,310 --> 01:35:33,040
off to you

2396
01:35:38,390 --> 01:35:36,320
instead of playing tug of war with you

2397
01:35:40,550 --> 01:35:38,400
i can go and say

2398
01:35:44,390 --> 01:35:40,560
oh what wants my love and attention

2399
01:35:47,270 --> 01:35:44,400
right now it's my sadness it's my fear

2400
01:35:49,430 --> 01:35:47,280
and i can go inward and offer those

2401
01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:49,440
parts of myself present

2402
01:35:53,510 --> 01:35:51,600
instead of expecting it from you

2403
01:35:56,149 --> 01:35:53,520
loving without expectation loving

2404
01:35:58,149 --> 01:35:56,159
without condition it must start with me

2405
01:36:01,189 --> 01:35:58,159
and it's powerful

2406
01:36:02,310 --> 01:36:01,199
when you can use everything in your

2407
01:36:04,229 --> 01:36:02,320
experience

2408
01:36:06,390 --> 01:36:04,239
to point back to what what it's not it's

2409
01:36:07,669 --> 01:36:06,400
not a blame thing nothing there's no one

2410
01:36:10,390 --> 01:36:07,679
to blame

2411
01:36:12,390 --> 01:36:10,400
that's not it's not anything wrong it's

2412
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:12,400
only parts of ourselves that want to be

2413
01:36:16,790 --> 01:36:15,040
loved that's it

2414
01:36:19,830 --> 01:36:16,800
we didn't do anything wrong

2415
01:36:22,149 --> 01:36:19,840
we created that for the express purpose

2416
01:36:24,550 --> 01:36:22,159
to be in touch with the parts of

2417
01:36:26,709 --> 01:36:24,560
ourselves that want to be reunited and

2418
01:36:28,390 --> 01:36:26,719
harmonized back into the love that we

2419
01:36:30,470 --> 01:36:28,400
are

2420
01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:30,480
wow that's a powerful that's a powerful

2421
01:36:33,990 --> 01:36:31,679
way to be

2422
01:36:35,109 --> 01:36:34,000
you know i guess i guess i would ask you

2423
01:36:36,709 --> 01:36:35,119
also

2424
01:36:38,950 --> 01:36:36,719
you know you're having these

2425
01:36:41,189 --> 01:36:38,960
tremendously amazing experiences with

2426
01:36:42,550 --> 01:36:41,199
your son and and you found a purpose in

2427
01:36:45,590 --> 01:36:42,560
all of this

2428
01:36:47,830 --> 01:36:45,600
but what do you think is next for you

2429
01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:47,840
what is the next part of your heart

2430
01:36:52,149 --> 01:36:50,320
i know why i came into this body

2431
01:36:54,390 --> 01:36:52,159
the reason i came into this body of the

2432
01:36:56,229 --> 01:36:54,400
story is the same reason corey came

2433
01:36:59,030 --> 01:36:56,239
because we're working together

2434
01:37:00,870 --> 01:36:59,040
and that is to create a new earth

2435
01:37:04,229 --> 01:37:00,880
we get to choose

2436
01:37:06,629 --> 01:37:04,239
what our earth is going to look like and

2437
01:37:09,510 --> 01:37:06,639
we do that by being

2438
01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:09,520
waking up to who we are and it's a at

2439
01:37:14,550 --> 01:37:11,360
some point the more

2440
01:37:17,350 --> 01:37:14,560
it's a butterfly effect the more that we

2441
01:37:19,669 --> 01:37:17,360
keep waking up and embodying the

2442
01:37:21,430 --> 01:37:19,679
unconditional love that we are by being

2443
01:37:24,550 --> 01:37:21,440
present with love and acceptance to

2444
01:37:25,510 --> 01:37:24,560
what's here now so it's a ripple effect

2445
01:37:31,030 --> 01:37:25,520
and

2446
01:37:33,510 --> 01:37:31,040
reach at some point of critical

2447
01:37:35,350 --> 01:37:33,520
mass a tipping point

2448
01:37:37,990 --> 01:37:35,360
and we get to choose

2449
01:37:40,470 --> 01:37:38,000
both the transition and what our earth

2450
01:37:44,390 --> 01:37:40,480
is looking like what i came here for

2451
01:37:45,430 --> 01:37:44,400
what corey came here for is a global

2452
01:37:49,189 --> 01:37:45,440
impact

2453
01:37:51,510 --> 01:37:49,199
i'm talking about world peace

2454
01:37:54,790 --> 01:37:51,520
and we've not experienced world peace

2455
01:37:56,870 --> 01:37:54,800
before it's entirely possible

2456
01:38:00,149 --> 01:37:56,880
now i don't the reason i know it's

2457
01:38:02,709 --> 01:38:00,159
entirely possible is because we are

2458
01:38:06,550 --> 01:38:02,719
peace itself

2459
01:38:07,669 --> 01:38:06,560
we are love itself well in our in our in

2460
01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:07,679
our

2461
01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:08,719
i guess

2462
01:38:13,510 --> 01:38:11,360
best state but you know listen i don't

2463
01:38:19,430 --> 01:38:13,520
want to be cynical but that's quite a

2464
01:38:24,149 --> 01:38:21,830
sometimes i i get discouraged and i get

2465
01:38:26,470 --> 01:38:24,159
cynical and i think we are just stupid

2466
01:38:27,830 --> 01:38:26,480
primitive monkeys and we cannot get our

2467
01:38:34,709 --> 01:38:27,840
brains around

2468
01:38:37,910 --> 01:38:36,149
you can't figure this out with your

2469
01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:37,920
human log it's logic

2470
01:38:42,709 --> 01:38:40,239
you will not be able to see this and we

2471
01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:42,719
will not be able to do it if we're

2472
01:38:46,709 --> 01:38:44,480
still sleeping

2473
01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:46,719
you cannot do it

2474
01:38:51,669 --> 01:38:48,960
we've got to be able to wake up

2475
01:38:55,109 --> 01:38:51,679
and see who we are

2476
01:38:56,470 --> 01:38:55,119
we're in a in an unconscious state as a

2477
01:38:58,870 --> 01:38:56,480
human collective

2478
01:39:00,870 --> 01:38:58,880
for the most part what i'm doing is

2479
01:39:02,950 --> 01:39:00,880
helping people wake up

2480
01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:02,960
to be conscious

2481
01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:05,040
to see things from their divine

2482
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:06,639
limitless nature

2483
01:39:10,229 --> 01:39:08,400
i can appreciate what you think that's a

2484
01:39:13,030 --> 01:39:10,239
tall order that's not going to happen

2485
01:39:14,870 --> 01:39:13,040
it's completely insane and impossible

2486
01:39:16,709 --> 01:39:14,880
from our human way of thinking

2487
01:39:17,750 --> 01:39:16,719
completely

2488
01:39:20,070 --> 01:39:17,760
but

2489
01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:20,080
i was seeing things from a completely

2490
01:39:25,430 --> 01:39:23,040
different perspective this is who i am

2491
01:39:28,709 --> 01:39:25,440
i have been waking up and waking up and

2492
01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:28,719
it's like oh yes oh yes it's possible

2493
01:39:34,310 --> 01:39:31,920
because we are love itself we are

2494
01:39:36,390 --> 01:39:34,320
consciousness if so

2495
01:39:37,910 --> 01:39:36,400
this is going to happen and that's why i

2496
01:39:40,390 --> 01:39:37,920
came here

2497
01:39:42,629 --> 01:39:40,400
well i definitely admire your optimism

2498
01:39:44,070 --> 01:39:42,639
you're much more optimistic than i

2499
01:39:47,189 --> 01:39:44,080
you know maybe i just have a lot more

2500
01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:47,199
evolution to do to get there because

2501
01:39:52,070 --> 01:39:49,840
i don't know i see i see something

2502
01:39:54,229 --> 01:39:52,080
you're perfect i see the things going on

2503
01:39:57,350 --> 01:39:54,239
in the world and i just shake my head

2504
01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:57,360
and i i don't know what yeah i'm fearful

2505
01:40:00,550 --> 01:39:59,760
for the world that my children will live

2506
01:40:01,669 --> 01:40:00,560
in

2507
01:40:02,629 --> 01:40:01,679
lately

2508
01:40:04,629 --> 01:40:02,639
because

2509
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:04,639
all the violence

2510
01:40:08,310 --> 01:40:06,800
mass shootings

2511
01:40:12,149 --> 01:40:08,320
war

2512
01:40:14,790 --> 01:40:12,159
we didn't learn anything from the first

2513
01:40:16,709 --> 01:40:14,800
two middle eastern wars that we were in

2514
01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:16,719
you know and here we go they're running

2515
01:40:21,910 --> 01:40:19,360
us into another war for no reason

2516
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:21,920
and uh you know it's easy i want to say

2517
01:40:25,510 --> 01:40:23,840
to you stephen

2518
01:40:27,590 --> 01:40:25,520
i'm sorry go ahead i was just going to

2519
01:40:30,149 --> 01:40:27,600
say it's easy to feel powerless and

2520
01:40:31,590 --> 01:40:30,159
cynical in a world of full of violence

2521
01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:31,600
and hatred and

2522
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:39,510
absolutely evil people you know

2523
01:40:44,390 --> 01:40:42,310
yes well i want to say to you

2524
01:40:47,350 --> 01:40:44,400
um thank you for what you bring to our

2525
01:40:50,950 --> 01:40:47,360
world this offering of this radio show

2526
01:40:51,990 --> 01:40:50,960
of helping people just to get more uh

2527
01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:52,000
wisdom

2528
01:40:56,310 --> 01:40:54,000
and more inspiration

2529
01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:56,320
and to explore

2530
01:41:00,950 --> 01:40:59,280
things beyond our human understanding

2531
01:41:03,270 --> 01:41:00,960
it's amazing

2532
01:41:06,870 --> 01:41:03,280
you bring such a beautiful gift for your

2533
01:41:08,550 --> 01:41:06,880
experience being here steven cambion

2534
01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:08,560
thank you

2535
01:41:13,510 --> 01:41:10,800
sure and i want to take i want to thank

2536
01:41:16,229 --> 01:41:13,520
you for being a part of this and i also

2537
01:41:17,830 --> 01:41:16,239
want to ask you i'm sure that many of my

2538
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:17,840
listeners are going to want to know more

2539
01:41:22,070 --> 01:41:19,840
about you or how they can get your books

2540
01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:22,080
or how they can contact you do you want

2541
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:23,760
to you want to give us some of that

2542
01:41:28,470 --> 01:41:25,600
information

2543
01:41:31,109 --> 01:41:28,480
please do yes

2544
01:41:31,750 --> 01:41:31,119
my website is

2545
01:41:32,470 --> 01:41:31,760
dot denise

2546
01:41:51,510 --> 01:41:32,480
s

2547
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:51,520
i'm going to be launching a different

2548
01:41:58,070 --> 01:41:55,520
website called creating a new earth.us

2549
01:42:01,669 --> 01:41:58,080
and they can go there as well all of

2550
01:42:03,990 --> 01:42:01,679
them will feed into that and um

2551
01:42:07,189 --> 01:42:04,000
they can avail themselves to some free

2552
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:07,199
mantra cards from time to time i do uh

2553
01:42:13,350 --> 01:42:10,560
free ebook giveaways and of this most

2554
01:42:14,950 --> 01:42:13,360
recent book creating a new earth waking

2555
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:14,960
up to who we are

2556
01:42:19,030 --> 01:42:17,199
for your audience i recommend the book

2557
01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:19,040
shifting worlds my encounters with the

2558
01:42:24,149 --> 01:42:21,040
afterlife all of these books are

2559
01:42:25,590 --> 01:42:24,159
available on amazon if they go to amazon

2560
01:42:28,149 --> 01:42:25,600
and and

2561
01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:28,159
type in my name denise roosevelt corey

2562
01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:29,440
russell

2563
01:42:32,430 --> 01:42:31,679
then the books will show up

2564
01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:32,440
it's

2565
01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:38,950
yeah and i would encourage my listeners

2566
01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:41,280
to support your efforts because

2567
01:42:45,750 --> 01:42:43,199
you know uh you're trying to do good

2568
01:42:48,229 --> 01:42:45,760
things and change the world especially

2569
01:42:49,830 --> 01:42:48,239
uh you know with experience that you had

2570
01:42:50,950 --> 01:42:49,840
this a lot of people

2571
01:42:53,189 --> 01:42:50,960
you know i

2572
01:42:54,470 --> 01:42:53,199
i should mention that you you did touch

2573
01:42:56,950 --> 01:42:54,480
on something that i think is very

2574
01:42:58,870 --> 01:42:56,960
important that when somebody dies

2575
01:42:59,750 --> 01:42:58,880
the grief is not just for them being

2576
01:43:01,830 --> 01:42:59,760
gone

2577
01:43:04,149 --> 01:43:01,840
like i had a friend whose wife uh

2578
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:04,159
tragically committed suicide very

2579
01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:05,199
suddenly

2580
01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:07,280
and

2581
01:43:11,350 --> 01:43:08,719
the biggest

2582
01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:11,360
issue that he had was not just that she

2583
01:43:16,229 --> 01:43:14,239
was gone it's that he lost the entire

2584
01:43:17,430 --> 01:43:16,239
future that he thought he was going to

2585
01:43:18,870 --> 01:43:17,440
have

2586
01:43:20,709 --> 01:43:18,880
and that's very

2587
01:43:22,070 --> 01:43:20,719
difficult to deal with and i'm sure that

2588
01:43:24,149 --> 01:43:22,080
you envisioned

2589
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:24,159
a much different future for you and your

2590
01:43:27,189 --> 01:43:25,440
son

2591
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:27,199
going forward you know and you could

2592
01:43:31,510 --> 01:43:28,880
have turned that it could have just been

2593
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:31,520
it could have just been a tragedy

2594
01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:32,560
yeah

2595
01:43:37,910 --> 01:43:35,440
it can be but it's amazing i love my

2596
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:37,920
life cory's more present with me now

2597
01:43:41,270 --> 01:43:40,080
than he's ever been even when he was in

2598
01:43:42,870 --> 01:43:41,280
his body

2599
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:42,880
it's beautiful

2600
01:43:46,629 --> 01:43:44,880
yeah i guess my point was that this

2601
01:43:48,870 --> 01:43:46,639
could have just been a tragedy for you

2602
01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:48,880
you could have been depressed and and

2603
01:43:52,950 --> 01:43:51,199
sad your entire life about that loss and

2604
01:43:56,070 --> 01:43:52,960
instead you're turning it into something

2605
01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:56,080
positive which is no easy task folks

2606
01:44:00,149 --> 01:43:57,840
this is not an easy thing that this

2607
01:44:02,390 --> 01:44:00,159
woman has done and i commend her for all

2608
01:44:05,350 --> 01:44:02,400
of her efforts and and for using this

2609
01:44:08,709 --> 01:44:05,360
experience in a positive way

2610
01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:11,270
well my friends

2611
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:13,920
that was an interesting conversation

2612
01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:16,000
and i'm glad that i took the time with

2613
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:18,960
an open heart and an open mind

2614
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:28,229
i come away

2615
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:31,750
with a somewhat softer take on people

2616
01:44:35,110 --> 01:44:33,280
who claim that they have these

2617
01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:35,120
experiences

2618
01:44:39,430 --> 01:44:36,800
[Music]

2619
01:44:46,870 --> 01:44:42,870
somehow though i think that grief

2620
01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:51,030
have you ever lost someone that was

2621
01:44:55,189 --> 01:44:53,520
incredibly important to you

2622
01:44:56,149 --> 01:44:55,199
that was

2623
01:44:58,149 --> 01:44:56,159
really

2624
01:44:59,050 --> 01:44:58,159
an anchor

2625
01:45:01,510 --> 01:44:59,060
in your life

2626
01:45:04,790 --> 01:45:01,520
[Music]

2627
01:45:08,709 --> 01:45:04,800
well i think to some extent we all have

2628
01:45:10,870 --> 01:45:08,719
and we all know that feeling of loss

2629
01:45:13,130 --> 01:45:10,880
that tremendous

2630
01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:13,140
pain and suffering

2631
01:45:16,470 --> 01:45:14,320
[Music]

2632
01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:16,480
that that person leaving

2633
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:18,480
can bring

2634
01:45:23,669 --> 01:45:21,360
into our lives

2635
01:45:27,510 --> 01:45:23,679
and i suppose i think

2636
01:45:31,750 --> 01:45:27,520
that to her credit instead of

2637
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:31,760
just wallowing in that suffering

2638
01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:34,320
in that loss

2639
01:45:44,310 --> 01:45:39,280
denise tried to find something positive

2640
01:45:48,590 --> 01:45:46,470
now i have to say that i found some

2641
01:45:50,390 --> 01:45:48,600
parts of her story to be

2642
01:45:51,189 --> 01:45:50,400
[Music]

2643
01:45:52,870 --> 01:45:51,199
really

2644
01:45:54,550 --> 01:45:52,880
compelling

2645
01:45:55,590 --> 01:45:54,560
and

2646
01:45:57,350 --> 01:45:55,600
they

2647
01:45:59,270 --> 01:45:57,360
some of the

2648
01:46:02,149 --> 01:45:59,280
things that she talks about certainly

2649
01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:02,159
tugged on my heartstrings

2650
01:46:06,390 --> 01:46:03,440
because

2651
01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:06,400
i guess we've all lost someone that we

2652
01:46:12,709 --> 01:46:09,360
wish that we could continue

2653
01:46:15,030 --> 01:46:12,719
that relationship with even though

2654
01:46:17,910 --> 01:46:15,040
they've passed on

2655
01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:17,920
but by and large most of us

2656
01:46:24,070 --> 01:46:20,719
we don't get to do that

2657
01:46:26,390 --> 01:46:24,080
now denise believes and claims

2658
01:46:29,510 --> 01:46:26,400
that she has been able

2659
01:46:32,550 --> 01:46:29,520
to continue that relationship

2660
01:46:34,229 --> 01:46:32,560
with her beloved son who she lost

2661
01:46:35,590 --> 01:46:34,239
tragically

2662
01:46:37,670 --> 01:46:35,600
so young

2663
01:46:42,070 --> 01:46:37,680
at the age of 27.

2664
01:46:45,830 --> 01:46:44,870
honestly folks i'm not sure what to

2665
01:46:47,590 --> 01:46:45,840
think

2666
01:46:49,830 --> 01:46:47,600
about her story

2667
01:46:52,950 --> 01:46:49,840
[Music]

2668
01:46:55,350 --> 01:46:52,960
do i believe she's telling the truth

2669
01:46:59,270 --> 01:46:55,360
well i certainly believe that she

2670
01:47:01,109 --> 01:46:59,280
believes that she is telling the truth

2671
01:47:02,470 --> 01:47:01,119
but some parts of things she talked

2672
01:47:04,070 --> 01:47:02,480
about

2673
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:04,080
it would seem to me

2674
01:47:06,550 --> 01:47:05,040
maybe

2675
01:47:08,790 --> 01:47:06,560
wishful thinking

2676
01:47:12,070 --> 01:47:08,800
and coincidence

2677
01:47:15,750 --> 01:47:12,080
this is not to discount her experience

2678
01:47:20,629 --> 01:47:17,990
i'm not quite sure

2679
01:47:23,510 --> 01:47:20,639
if i believe that she truly is

2680
01:47:24,629 --> 01:47:23,520
communicating with her dearly departed

2681
01:47:26,709 --> 01:47:24,639
son

2682
01:47:29,750 --> 01:47:26,719
who i'm sure

2683
01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:29,760
she misses incredibly

2684
01:47:34,550 --> 01:47:32,400
but i will say this

2685
01:47:37,109 --> 01:47:34,560
she has turned

2686
01:47:38,229 --> 01:47:37,119
an incredible tragedy

2687
01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:38,239
into

2688
01:47:43,189 --> 01:47:40,800
something positive

2689
01:47:44,470 --> 01:47:43,199
and that can be

2690
01:47:48,310 --> 01:47:44,480
a difficult

2691
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:48,320
if not impossible thing to do

2692
01:47:52,730 --> 01:47:51,280
in the face of such

2693
01:47:55,750 --> 01:47:52,740
such a tragic loss

2694
01:47:57,669 --> 01:47:55,760
[Music]

2695
01:47:59,590 --> 01:47:57,679
and to her credit

2696
01:48:01,510 --> 01:47:59,600
many of the things that she talks about

2697
01:48:03,510 --> 01:48:01,520
about being

2698
01:48:06,310 --> 01:48:03,520
you know

2699
01:48:09,350 --> 01:48:06,320
a child of god and being

2700
01:48:11,109 --> 01:48:09,360
part of that source and connecting with

2701
01:48:12,790 --> 01:48:11,119
that source

2702
01:48:17,350 --> 01:48:12,800
i think can be

2703
01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:17,360
tremendously beneficial to most of us

2704
01:48:22,750 --> 01:48:20,320
that she's out there reminding us

2705
01:48:24,310 --> 01:48:22,760
that we are

2706
01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:24,320
unstoppable

2707
01:48:28,340 --> 01:48:26,080
immortal

2708
01:48:29,990 --> 01:48:28,350
incredible beings of light

2709
01:48:33,830 --> 01:48:30,000
[Music]

2710
01:48:36,310 --> 01:48:33,840
and that we all contain the spark

2711
01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:36,320
or a piece

2712
01:48:41,189 --> 01:48:40,000
of that source that creator that god

2713
01:48:43,030 --> 01:48:41,199
energy

2714
01:48:48,950 --> 01:48:43,040
is within

2715
01:48:51,590 --> 01:48:48,960
every single one of us and regardless of

2716
01:48:53,830 --> 01:48:51,600
her experience

2717
01:48:55,510 --> 01:48:53,840
i truly believe that

2718
01:48:58,950 --> 01:48:55,520
at least about that

2719
01:49:03,189 --> 01:49:00,550
and i can't offer

2720
01:49:06,070 --> 01:49:03,199
evidence or

2721
01:49:09,750 --> 01:49:06,080
proof that she's right

2722
01:49:11,669 --> 01:49:09,760
i just feel it in my heart and my soul

2723
01:49:13,589 --> 01:49:11,679
that at least about that

2724
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:13,599
she is incredibly

2725
01:49:21,910 --> 01:49:19,589
we all have within us

2726
01:49:25,109 --> 01:49:21,920
a piece

2727
01:49:29,669 --> 01:49:25,119
of the divine cosmos

2728
01:49:33,589 --> 01:49:29,679
we all have limitless potential

2729
01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:33,599
if only we choose

2730
01:49:39,750 --> 01:49:37,440
to both harness it and access it

2731
01:49:41,830 --> 01:49:39,760
and i believe we can choose that

2732
01:49:44,149 --> 01:49:41,840
and she's out there encouraging people

2733
01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:44,159
to do that

2734
01:49:49,189 --> 01:49:46,400
so i think her experience has been

2735
01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:49,199
beneficial to more than just her

2736
01:49:54,070 --> 01:49:51,360
because she's writing books she's going

2737
01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:54,080
on talk shows she's talking about her

2738
01:49:58,550 --> 01:49:56,639
experience and

2739
01:49:59,510 --> 01:49:58,560
she is reminding

2740
01:50:01,350 --> 01:49:59,520
people

2741
01:50:03,589 --> 01:50:01,360
of this truth

2742
01:50:06,550 --> 01:50:03,599
that we are limitless in our potential

2743
01:50:09,350 --> 01:50:06,560
that we can access that god energy that

2744
01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:09,360
we can connect with the source on higher

2745
01:50:13,189 --> 01:50:10,880
levels

2746
01:50:14,870 --> 01:50:13,199
and certainly that's a beautiful thing

2747
01:50:18,990 --> 01:50:14,880
and i'm glad

2748
01:50:20,229 --> 01:50:19,000
out there doing that

2749
01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:20,239
[Music]

2750
01:50:24,229 --> 01:50:22,000
as for me

2751
01:50:25,910 --> 01:50:24,239
people have been asking me a lot of

2752
01:50:26,790 --> 01:50:25,920
questions lately

2753
01:50:30,149 --> 01:50:26,800
uh

2754
01:50:32,790 --> 01:50:30,159
about the show and

2755
01:50:38,229 --> 01:50:32,800
various things so i think in the few

2756
01:50:43,270 --> 01:50:40,870
those things and answer

2757
01:50:44,709 --> 01:50:43,280
uh some of the many questions that i've

2758
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:44,719
been getting

2759
01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:47,840
first and foremost i want to thank our

2760
01:50:52,470 --> 01:50:49,360
fringe fm

2761
01:50:55,189 --> 01:50:52,480
new listeners and i want to thank

2762
01:50:57,990 --> 01:50:55,199
all of my listeners who followed me here

2763
01:51:00,950 --> 01:50:58,000
to the fringe fm

2764
01:51:04,470 --> 01:51:00,960
our show the midnight hour show

2765
01:51:07,030 --> 01:51:04,480
is on every saturday on the fringe fm at

2766
01:51:09,589 --> 01:51:07,040
midnight eastern standard time

2767
01:51:11,910 --> 01:51:09,599
9 p.m pacific

2768
01:51:13,830 --> 01:51:11,920
so i want to remind you of that and

2769
01:51:17,189 --> 01:51:13,840
encourage you to tune in next week for

2770
01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:17,199
another brand new episode

2771
01:51:21,350 --> 01:51:18,480
also

2772
01:51:23,270 --> 01:51:21,360
people have been asking me a lot lately

2773
01:51:25,109 --> 01:51:23,280
or saying

2774
01:51:27,830 --> 01:51:25,119
i missed the show

2775
01:51:29,030 --> 01:51:27,840
how can i hear last week's show

2776
01:51:31,910 --> 01:51:29,040
well if you

2777
01:51:35,830 --> 01:51:31,920
download the fringe fm app there is a

2778
01:51:39,350 --> 01:51:35,840
replay feature and you can access

2779
01:51:41,750 --> 01:51:39,360
a show of mine if you missed it

2780
01:51:45,510 --> 01:51:41,760
additionally

2781
01:51:47,430 --> 01:51:45,520
it has been my plan to upload

2782
01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:47,440
to youtube

2783
01:51:52,629 --> 01:51:49,760
the new episodes that air here on the

2784
01:51:55,030 --> 01:51:52,639
fringe fm after they've aired on the

2785
01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:55,040
fringe fb in other words

2786
01:51:57,669 --> 01:51:56,080
we want to

2787
01:52:00,870 --> 01:51:57,679
make sure all of our listeners come to

2788
01:52:02,629 --> 01:52:00,880
the fringe fm first for new episodes and

2789
01:52:04,390 --> 01:52:02,639
then after that

2790
01:52:06,550 --> 01:52:04,400
the plan really is that they will be

2791
01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:06,560
uploaded to youtube and

2792
01:52:11,669 --> 01:52:09,920
the archives will be available

2793
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:11,679
but to be quite honest i'm a little bit

2794
01:52:15,270 --> 01:52:13,520
overloaded with many different projects

2795
01:52:18,550 --> 01:52:15,280
at once right now

2796
01:52:20,390 --> 01:52:18,560
and have failed to do so so far

2797
01:52:24,790 --> 01:52:20,400
i'm gonna try to set aside some time

2798
01:52:28,149 --> 01:52:24,800
every week to get one or two episodes up

2799
01:52:30,870 --> 01:52:28,159
i believe this is episode six of our new

2800
01:52:31,690 --> 01:52:30,880
second season here hosted on the fringe

2801
01:52:33,030 --> 01:52:31,700
fm

2802
01:52:34,709 --> 01:52:33,040
[Music]

2803
01:52:37,510 --> 01:52:34,719
so hopefully

2804
01:52:39,589 --> 01:52:37,520
within the next few short weeks

2805
01:52:41,109 --> 01:52:39,599
we should be caught up

2806
01:52:42,790 --> 01:52:41,119
i'm going to make it a goal to make sure

2807
01:52:45,510 --> 01:52:42,800
that it's done and i apologize to

2808
01:52:47,750 --> 01:52:45,520
everybody who's been asking me to hear

2809
01:52:49,270 --> 01:52:47,760
replay episodes should they not be able

2810
01:52:50,870 --> 01:52:49,280
to tune in

2811
01:52:52,629 --> 01:52:50,880
as they're broadcasted here on the

2812
01:52:54,470 --> 01:52:52,639
fringe fm

2813
01:52:57,510 --> 01:52:54,480
so hopefully within the next couple of

2814
01:52:59,910 --> 01:52:57,520
weeks we'll be all caught up and the

2815
01:53:02,470 --> 01:52:59,920
episode two

2816
01:53:04,950 --> 01:53:02,480
episodes so far will be available online

2817
01:53:06,870 --> 01:53:04,960
i will be posting links to them on my

2818
01:53:10,550 --> 01:53:06,880
twitter as i

2819
01:53:15,669 --> 01:53:13,030
next i just wanted to mention that

2820
01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:15,679
trying very hard to uh

2821
01:53:20,550 --> 01:53:17,920
get more subscribers on my youtube

2822
01:53:23,030 --> 01:53:20,560
channel where the archives of the

2823
01:53:25,270 --> 01:53:23,040
midnight hour show will be hosted

2824
01:53:27,990 --> 01:53:25,280
and i really could use

2825
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:28,000
more subscribers so that we could

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01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:30,560
try to monetize that channel

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01:53:34,390 --> 01:53:31,360
and

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01:53:37,350 --> 01:53:34,400
also accept super chat donations

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01:53:40,470 --> 01:53:37,360
so please please if you have not already

2830
01:53:42,790 --> 01:53:40,480
please visit my youtube channel just put

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01:53:45,350 --> 01:53:42,800
my name stephen cambion that's

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01:53:47,189 --> 01:53:45,360
c-a-m-b-i-a-n

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01:53:49,430 --> 01:53:47,199
and stephen with a v

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01:53:51,910 --> 01:53:49,440
into the youtube search box and you will

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01:53:53,189 --> 01:53:51,920
find my channel very easily

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01:53:55,990 --> 01:53:53,199
please do

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01:53:57,270 --> 01:53:56,000
subscribe to my channel so that i can

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01:53:59,510 --> 01:53:57,280
bring you

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01:54:02,790 --> 01:53:59,520
the archived episodes

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01:54:04,470 --> 01:54:02,800
and hopefully we can monetize things a

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01:54:07,430 --> 01:54:04,480
little bit

2842
01:54:08,629 --> 01:54:07,440
i've also recently started a patreon

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01:54:11,750 --> 01:54:08,639
page

2844
01:54:14,709 --> 01:54:11,760
again just search patreon for stephen

2845
01:54:17,189 --> 01:54:14,719
campion or its patreon backslash stephen

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01:54:20,790 --> 01:54:17,199
campion that's stephen with the v and

2847
01:54:22,950 --> 01:54:20,800
then cambion c-a-m-i-a-n

2848
01:54:26,550 --> 01:54:22,960
please do consider becoming a patron

2849
01:54:29,189 --> 01:54:26,560
because i will be creating some patreon

2850
01:54:32,950 --> 01:54:29,199
exclusive content only for

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01:54:34,629 --> 01:54:32,960
my patreon patrons going forward

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01:54:36,629 --> 01:54:34,639
i want to thank each and every one of

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01:54:38,629 --> 01:54:36,639
you for tuning in tonight

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01:54:40,709 --> 01:54:38,639
especially those that

2855
01:54:43,350 --> 01:54:40,719
are long time listeners

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01:54:45,189 --> 01:54:43,360
it's been an incredible journey so far

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01:54:48,070 --> 01:54:45,199
and the journey continues

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01:54:50,790 --> 01:54:48,080
and i'm so glad to have you here

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01:54:52,950 --> 01:54:50,800
with me on this journey

2860
01:54:55,189 --> 01:54:52,960
please be sure to visit our website

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01:54:58,550 --> 01:54:55,199
where you can check out our previous

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01:55:01,030 --> 01:54:58,560
episodes all of season one is archived

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01:55:04,470 --> 01:55:01,040
and available on our website

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01:55:09,189 --> 01:55:04,480
and you can visit us there at

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01:55:10,149 --> 01:55:09,199
the midnight hour dot home dot blog

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01:55:13,109 --> 01:55:10,159
and just

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01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:13,119
click on episode season one and you can

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01:55:17,109 --> 01:55:15,760
get i believe it's 15 episodes from

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01:55:18,709 --> 01:55:17,119
season one

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01:55:21,589 --> 01:55:18,719
are available right there from our

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01:55:24,149 --> 01:55:21,599
website you can also contact me there

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01:55:26,870 --> 01:55:24,159
or you can contact me on twitter

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01:55:28,629 --> 01:55:26,880
just search for stephencambian or on

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01:55:31,350 --> 01:55:28,639
facebook again just search for

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01:55:33,669 --> 01:55:31,360
stevencambian i'd also like to encourage

2876
01:55:35,350 --> 01:55:33,679
you to please like our facebook page for

2877
01:55:39,189 --> 01:55:35,360
the midnight hour show

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01:55:41,189 --> 01:55:39,199
search box on facebook and you'll find

2879
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:41,199
us very easily please like our page

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01:55:44,790 --> 01:55:42,960
there

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01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:44,800
until next time folks

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01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:47,679
my name is stephen campion reminding you

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01:55:55,610 --> 01:55:51,119
that sometimes the journey really is its

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01:56:05,750 --> 01:55:55,620
own reward good night folks